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| From | slider <slider@anashram.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.dreams.castaneda |
| Subject | Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) |
| Date | 2018-07-01 12:07 +0100 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <op.zlgzt8yv7eafsp@slider> (permalink) |
| References | <op.zlad3kup7eafsp@slider> |
### - chalk up another winner :) this young dude is only 16/17 and has been trying for a year to go WILD, problem was he wasn't trying every night but only occasionally when he remembered to try it, a busy young student in india apparently doing 12 hours per day of study (sheesh) he kept falling asleep and/or not able to find any hypnagogia, or losing them when he maybe thought he did... one thing he did perfect in that time was his ability to relax however heh, and then his breakthrough came only a little while back (which was posted here) that involved keeping his eyes still and staring straight ahead instead of letting them dart about looking for hypnagogia, and when he did that (kept his eyes completely still i mean) that's when the hypnagogia really started to come to him... and now we have his second WILD experience (which he says he'll also post in the group in more detail later for the benefit of others) and of which he just messaged me about on fb; in his own words then: *** Omg...i had a intense hypnagogia last night..it was llike falling continously for 30 seconds or so...great feeling...& it followed by a very vivid visual hypnagogia & pulled me to WILDing... Cooooooooll...im still wondering how amazing & easy it is to WILD at will... *** smile, give him a couple of months and he'll likely be WILDing at the drop of a hat heh :) ------------ ping chris... i gots an answer for ya's from dreaming this morning re what's it all about (alfie?): i went WILD and (for myself only) asked out loud: tell me something about lucid dreaming that i haven't realised yet? and i gots back what i guess i already knew but hadn't quite put together in this manner: "there is NO knowledge in lucid dreaming 'until' you get to the midway point! after which it ceases to be just a dream anymore and becomes a living reality..." meaning: once someone gets to the midway point they're on their own, and can then do + learn everything/advance all by themselves; they need nothing else: 'life' itself has become the teacher :) and because, only once the midway point is achieved does it all becomes totally volitional to be able to enter into that altered state of awareness we then 'call' lucid dreaming in a supremely/ultimately sober manner, and get anything from it besides jerking oneself off merely amusing ourselves... why do that? because there's knowledge available to us from that midway pov that isn't available under any other circumstances AND being there also contains the ability to then carry it out... + screw-you if ya can't be bothered to get there and see/find out for yourself heh, am done encouraging you... plus with jeremy on yer' back all the time like that (even to openly punishing you in public like he thinks he's your fuckin' mother or summat geez!) am not surprised if life itself is becoming nothing to ya other than just something more to piss up the nearest wall right along side him... but then that's 'your' problem, no one else's... (in my observation you been sitting under that shits desperately dominating shadow far too long pal and is dragging you down with him... to nada... 'coz that's what drowning people do!) now back-under ya's all go fuckers! maybe even for the last time :P
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conformation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2018-06-27 22:31 +0100
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) fuckowski <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 16:42 -0700
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2018-07-01 12:07 +0100
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2018-07-01 13:43 +0100
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Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2018-07-01 15:40 +0100
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) "Jeremy H. Denisovan" <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 12:17 -0700
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) fuckowski <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 12:46 -0700
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2018-07-01 21:20 +0100
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2018-07-01 21:26 +0100
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2018-07-01 21:39 +0100
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) fuckowski <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 16:07 -0700
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2018-07-02 00:26 +0100
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) fuckowski <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 21:02 -0700
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2018-07-02 09:25 +0100
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Re: 24 hour mexican food at your service ! slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2018-07-02 23:47 +0100
Re: 24 hour mexican food at your service ! "Jeremy H. Denisovan" <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 17:27 -0700
Re: 24 hour mexican food at your service ! fuckowski <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 18:08 -0700
Re: 24 hour mexican food at your service ! slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2018-07-03 03:45 +0100
Re: 24 hour mexican food at your service ! "Jeremy H. Denisovan" <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 10:25 -0700
Re: 24 hour mexican food at your service ! "Jeremy H. Denisovan" <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 10:48 -0700
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.org> - 2018-07-08 21:19 +0100
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 16:00 +0800
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2018-07-17 09:10 +0100
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Re: this must be the day damnit ! fuckowski <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 07:14 -0700
Re: this must be the day damnit ! "Jeremy H. Denisovan" <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 08:41 -0700
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 09:35 +0800
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2018-07-18 23:36 +0100
Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :) thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 09:01 +0800
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