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| From | Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? |
| Date | 2019-08-01 03:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <yq7V8-m3-7@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | (3 earlier) <ypRwZ-6KZ-13@gated-at.bofh.it> <ypVqV-Oo-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <ypWwG-1Hs-13@gated-at.bofh.it> <ypWZI-1R7-9@gated-at.bofh.it> <ypX9o-1V2-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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On 01/08/2019 01:44, Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 02:32:25PM +0100, Brian wrote: >> On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 16:07:33 +0300, Reco wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 07:58:54AM -0400, Celejar wrote: >>>> mathematical analysis of how much hardware would be necessary to crack >>>> a good WPA2 password. I've seen lots of sites explaining how to use >>>> hashcat with a GPU, and various real-world tests on lists of hashed >>>> passwords (e.g., [1]), but can you provide a serious analysis of the >>>> practical cost, in time or hardware, of cracking a real-world WPA setup? >>> Cost - Amazon will take 11c per hour for that VM that comes with NVIDIA >>> Tesla videocard. >>> Said hour is more than enough to bruteforce 8 character WPA passphrase >>> with hashcat. >> In the context of a home user producing a secure wireless configuration, >> a 64 random character passphrase works wonders. The sky is not about to >> fall in. > Agreed. If 64 character password is reasonably random, bruteforcing it is > economically unfeasible. With obvious exceptions, of course. > Entering such password to a device is somewhat tedious though. Especially tedious on devices with limited input interfaces, such as smart TVs, game consoles, and printers. Restricting the WPA2 passphrase to digits and lowercase letters reduces entropy but makes input more bearable. Seeing the reaction of guests when they are handed a piece of paper with a long random WPA2 passphrase: priceless. It never gets old. :-D Kind regards, -- Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> Director Transient Software Limited <https://transient.nz/> New Zealand
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Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-07-31 14:00 +0200
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Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-31 15:50 +0200
Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2019-08-01 03:20 +0200
Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-08-01 04:40 +0200
Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-08-01 04:40 +0200
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Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-01 08:40 +0200
Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-08-01 08:50 +0200
Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-01 10:00 +0200
Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-08-02 05:20 +0200
Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-08-02 05:20 +0200
Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-31 22:20 +0200
Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-29 17:00 +0200
Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-07-29 17:20 +0200
Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-07-29 18:00 +0200
PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?} Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-07-29 19:00 +0200
Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?} David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-29 23:10 +0200
Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?} Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-07-30 05:20 +0200
Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?} David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-08-03 17:50 +0200
Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?} mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-08-04 14:00 +0200
Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?} <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-04 14:10 +0200
Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?} Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2019-08-04 17:20 +0200
Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?} rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-08-05 18:50 +0200
Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?} David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-08-05 22:00 +0200
Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?} Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-08-06 07:50 +0200
Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?} David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 15:40 +0200
Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?} Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-08-07 08:50 +0200
Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-07-29 19:10 +0200
Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-29 18:40 +0200
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