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Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices

From Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices
Date 2019-06-25 15:10 +0200
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On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 08:46:28AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On a single computer with any number of interfaces of any type, the new
> names are 100% predictable from one boot to the next. (At least assuming
> you don't change which slot a given network device is connected to; IIRC
> that can change the assigned name, in at least some cases.)

At least one person in IRC reported that their interface name changed
after a motherboard firmware upgrade.  So, that's another thing to
watch for.

Debian's defaults are a bit baffling sometimes.  They assumed a mobile
device when they decided to put "allow-hotplug" on your wired ethernet
interfaces, which breaks everything under the sun on traditional
servers or workstations in a work environment.

And then they assumed a multiple-interface server when they decided to
use "net.ifnames=1" in stretch.

So I guess the full assumed target for a Debian installation is a mobile
laptop server with multiple removable ethernet interfaces, which is
not starting any network services at boot time.  (And doesn't need any
non-free firmware to do its job.)

I'm sure such a machine exists somewhere in the universe....

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New nomeclature of ethernet devices Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2019-06-25 10:10 +0200
  Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-25 10:50 +0200
    Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2019-06-25 11:10 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 14:20 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-06-25 14:50 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-25 15:10 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 15:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-25 15:50 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 15:30 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-06-25 16:10 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 17:10 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2019-06-25 17:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2019-06-25 17:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 01:10 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-06-26 02:00 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-06-26 12:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-06-26 12:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-26 14:20 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-06-26 16:10 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-06-26 16:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-26 21:00 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-06-27 02:10 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-27 13:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-27 04:30 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2019-06-27 09:00 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-27 16:10 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices "Martin S. Weber" <Ephaeton@gmx.net> - 2019-06-25 20:30 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 21:00 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-25 20:10 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-25 20:30 +0200
    Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-06-25 12:10 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-25 12:20 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2019-06-25 13:00 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-25 13:20 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2019-06-25 13:40 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-25 13:50 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-06-25 14:20 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 00:10 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-06-26 01:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 01:50 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-06-25 18:10 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-25 18:30 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 18:30 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-06-25 22:30 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 22:30 +0200

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