Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices

From	Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices
Date	2019-06-25 11:10 +0200
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Hi Tomas,

> The moniker for that is "predictable interface names". And you
> seem to assume that there hasn't been a discussion.
> 
> This being Debian, there sure has been one, you just didn't
> notice :-)
> 
Might be, but this does not explain, why there are still scripts and 
configurations, which are still using the old names. And THAT is the problem.

> The default (Debian /has/ to settle for one default, since many
> people installing Debian don't know or care what an interface
> name is, let alone what the heck a /predictable interface name/
> is), is "predictable interface names".
> 
Yes, I wrote about it. And I also told my opinion about it: If people shall 
use it, why change to predictable names? That makes no sense.

> Since not everyone wants or likes that default, you can override
> it: just just add net.ifnames=0  to your linux commandline (e.g.
> in /etc/default/grub, like so [1]:
> 
I did so some time, but I changed to the new names. However, looks like I have 
to go back, due to the problems I mentioned. 

BTW: After an upgrade there suddenly appeared a new line 
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="net.ifnames=0"
in /etc/default/grub, without my intervention! Who added this line???
 
>   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="net.ifnames=0"
> 
> don't forget to run update-grub afterwards, ask here if unsure,
> proceed with care, etc. etc.).

Of course. :)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> [1]
> https://wiki.debian.org/NewInStretch#If_you_install_fresh_instead_of_upgrad
> ing... You do read the release notes, don't you? ;-)
> -- t

IMO the handling of names is still half-baked and we should have a look at it.

Best 

Hans

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New nomeclature of ethernet devices Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2019-06-25 10:10 +0200
  Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-25 10:50 +0200
    Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2019-06-25 11:10 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 14:20 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-06-25 14:50 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-25 15:10 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 15:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-25 15:50 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 15:30 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-06-25 16:10 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 17:10 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2019-06-25 17:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2019-06-25 17:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 01:10 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-06-26 02:00 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-06-26 12:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-06-26 12:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-26 14:20 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-06-26 16:10 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-06-26 16:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-26 21:00 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-06-27 02:10 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-27 13:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-27 04:30 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2019-06-27 09:00 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-27 16:10 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices "Martin S. Weber" <Ephaeton@gmx.net> - 2019-06-25 20:30 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 21:00 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-25 20:10 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-25 20:30 +0200
    Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-06-25 12:10 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-25 12:20 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2019-06-25 13:00 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-25 13:20 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2019-06-25 13:40 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-25 13:50 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-06-25 14:20 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 00:10 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-06-26 01:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 01:50 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-06-25 18:10 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-25 18:30 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 18:30 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-06-25 22:30 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 22:30 +0200

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