Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices

From	Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices
Date	2019-06-25 22:30 +0200
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On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 04:22:54PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>>The one thing I can't understand is why we still don't have "network
>>>interface aliases" (equivalent to symlinks), so that systemd can name my
>>>interface enp2s0 *and* eth0 instead of having to choose between those
>>>two, just like it has no problem naming my SSD /dev/sda and
>>>/dev/disk/by-id/ata-FOOBAR (and a bunch of other names as well).
>>
>> Because a decision was made decades ago not to access network interfaces via
>> /dev and changing that now would break a lot.
>
>I wasn't suggesting to move network interfaces into the file-system
>(e.g. via device files), but only to add a new feature to create
>"network interface aliases".

Yes, but it isn't obvious how those would behave. For filesystems it's a 
well understood concept. Also, for filesystems, it doesn't really matter 
if there are multiple names. For network interfaces, since all of the 
operations require special commands, which interface is returned when 
you enumerate them, etc.? I suspect it would just cause even more 
confusion.

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New nomeclature of ethernet devices Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2019-06-25 10:10 +0200
  Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-25 10:50 +0200
    Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2019-06-25 11:10 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 14:20 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-06-25 14:50 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-25 15:10 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 15:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-25 15:50 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 15:30 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-06-25 16:10 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 17:10 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2019-06-25 17:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2019-06-25 17:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 01:10 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-06-26 02:00 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-06-26 12:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-06-26 12:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-26 14:20 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-06-26 16:10 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-06-26 16:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-26 21:00 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-06-27 02:10 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-27 13:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-27 04:30 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2019-06-27 09:00 +0200
                Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-27 16:10 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices "Martin S. Weber" <Ephaeton@gmx.net> - 2019-06-25 20:30 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 21:00 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-25 20:10 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-25 20:30 +0200
    Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-06-25 12:10 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-25 12:20 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2019-06-25 13:00 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-25 13:20 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2019-06-25 13:40 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-25 13:50 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-06-25 14:20 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 00:10 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-06-26 01:40 +0200
              Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 01:50 +0200
      Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-06-25 18:10 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-25 18:30 +0200
        Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 18:30 +0200
          Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-06-25 22:30 +0200
            Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-25 22:30 +0200

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