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| From | Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.project |
| Subject | Re: Debian and Non-Free Services |
| Date | 2019-09-13 09:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <yFOls-15D-3@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | <yFBey-A1-23@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| Organization | Ganneff |
On 15523 March 1977, Sam Hartman wrote: > Subject: Free Software Needs Free Tools I think the subject does not fit the content. Its more like "Forbid DDs to use certain services". > No Debian contributor should be expected or encouraged, when working to > improve Debian, to use non-free tools. This includes proprietary web > services. We will ensure this, insofar as it is within Debian's > collective control. > For example, Vcs-Git fields in source packages must not refer to > proprietary git code management systems. Non-Debian services are > acceptable here so long as they are principally Free Software. > We encourage all our upstreams to use Free/Libre tools. > We recognise that metadata in Debian which describes the behaviour of > those outside our community, for example fields which refer to upstream > source management systems, may (in order to be accurate) still need to > refer to proprietary systems. I think that, should this pass, it has negative effects for Debian, not positive ones. While we should clearly NOT encourage the use of things like github, the only thing we IMO should forbid is where it actually hurts us as a project. Say, it really doesnt matter if i git clone github.com/something to get what the maintainer is working on right now - the one "official" source for the Debian package is whats in the archive - but if the maintainer wants to use GitHub issues as their mainplace for bug tracking and not the BTS, thats bad. So if anything, we should forbid such things (as we discourage anyways already). Difference IMO is where the main, authorative, place for something is. source in git is just some source in git, the authorative one for Debian is the upload. You can easily put an NMU on top (or take over package) While for bugs its the BTS, not some whatever system somewhere. -- bye, Joerg
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Re: Debian and Non-Free Services Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov <dbaryshkov@gmail.com> - 2019-09-13 13:10 +0200
Re: Debian and Non-Free Services MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop> - 2019-09-13 15:00 +0200
Re: Debian and Non-Free Services Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-09-13 17:00 +0200
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Re: Debian and Non-Free Services Norbert Preining <norbert@preining.info> - 2019-09-13 18:00 +0200
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Re: Debian and Non-Free Services Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-09-13 13:40 +0200
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Re: Debian and Non-Free Services Bart Martens <bartm@debian.org> - 2019-09-15 20:10 +0200
Re: Debian and Non-Free Services Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2019-09-16 23:10 +0200
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