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| From | Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.devel |
| Subject | Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult Packaging Practices) |
| Date | 2019-05-31 17:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <y3RNo-4Wk-7@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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hi,
just commenting on two bits now:
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 07:17:07AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:46:48AM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> > On Wed, 2019-05-29 at 10:38 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > Use the $300,000 on our bank accounts?
> > I heard that this didn't work out well the last time ("dunc tank"),
> > though that was before the time I followed Debian development.
> I tend to concur with Raphael and Holger here.
I think you misunderstood me, in some aspects of this discussion I very much
disagree with Raphael, while at some others I agree with him very much.
Or maybe you haven't ;)
in short: I think Debian should stay a project of volunteer work(ers) and
should not have paid staff. I also think that more people should be paid
by outside entities to work on Debian. And that more people should work
completly voluntarily on Debian!
> [...] But the Linux Foundation is also paying
> people to make Debian reproducible.
"has paid" is correct, nowadays we work under SFC's umbrella, see
https://reproducible-builds.org/news/2018/11/08/reproducible-builds-joins-software-freedom-concervancy/
--
tschau,
Holger
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