Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult Packaging Practices)

From	Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.devel
Subject	Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult Packaging Practices)
Date	2019-05-29 10:40 +0200
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Hi,

On Wed, 29 May 2019, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> One of the popular answers to this and some other problems is "nobody sat
> down and wrote the code". Not sure what can we do about this class of
> reasons.

Use the $300,000 on our bank accounts?

https://lists.debian.org/debian-news/2019/msg00002.html

And I heard of another $300,000 donation from Google (through Thomas Koch)
although I can't find any reference to it.

FWIW, I gave a talk on LTS and the topic of funding Debian work
at the minidebconf in Marseille (30 minutes):
http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2019/miniconf-marseille/2019-05-25/5_years_lts_funding.webm

My slides are here:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/fr/2019/Marseille?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=debian-lts-5-years-of-funding.pdf

Cheers,
-- 
Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer

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Consensus Call:  Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16 Sam Hartman <leader@debian.org> - 2019-05-25 19:30 +0200
  Re: Consensus Call:  Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16 Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2019-05-26 11:40 +0200
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        Re: Consensus Call:  Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments  by 2019-06-16 Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2019-05-27 06:30 +0200
          Re: Consensus Call:  Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16 Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-05-27 08:50 +0200
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    Re: Consensus Call:  Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments  by 2019-06-16 Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2019-05-26 21:40 +0200
      Difficult Packaging Practices Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-05-26 23:10 +0200
        Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Jérémy Lal <kapouer@melix.org> - 2019-05-27 00:00 +0200
        Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-05-27 01:30 +0200
          Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-05-27 13:40 +0200
        Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2019-05-27 08:20 +0200
          Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2019-05-27 09:00 +0200
            Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2019-05-28 03:10 +0200
              Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2019-05-28 07:00 +0200
                Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2019-05-28 08:50 +0200
                RE:Difficult Packaging Practices PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel <frederic-emmanuel.picca@synchrotron-soleil.fr> - 2019-05-28 09:10 +0200
                Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2019-05-28 09:40 +0200
                Re: Difficult Packaging Practices (OT) Thomas Dettbarn <dettus@dettus.net> - 2019-05-28 09:50 +0200
                Re: Difficult Packaging Practices (OT) Alex Mestiashvili <amestia@rsh2.donotuse.de> - 2019-05-28 10:20 +0200
                RE:Difficult Packaging Practices (OT) PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel <frederic-emmanuel.picca@synchrotron-soleil.fr> - 2019-05-28 10:50 +0200
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          Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-05-27 14:00 +0200
            Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult  Packaging Practices) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2019-05-29 08:50 +0200
              Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult  Packaging Practices) Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2019-05-29 09:00 +0200
                Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult  Packaging Practices) Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2019-05-29 10:40 +0200
                Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult  Packaging Practices) Ansgar <ansgar@debian.org> - 2019-05-29 10:50 +0200
                Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult  Packaging Practices) Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2019-05-29 11:10 +0200
                paying people for Debian work (Re: Why do we take so long to realise  good ideas (Was: Difficult Packaging Practices)) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-05-30 23:40 +0200
                Re: paying people for Debian work (Re: Why do we take so long to  realise good ideas (Was: Difficult Packaging Practices)) Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2019-06-03 03:30 +0200
                Re: paying people for Debian work (Re: Why do we take so long to  realise good ideas (Was: Difficult Packaging Practices)) Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2019-06-03 11:50 +0200
                Re: paying people for Debian work (Re: Why do we take so long to  realise good ideas (Was: Difficult Packaging Practices)) Joël Krähemann <jkraehemann@gmail.com> - 2019-06-06 20:50 +0200
                Re: paying people for Debian work (Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-06-03 17:00 +0200
                Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult  Packaging Practices) Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2019-05-31 07:20 +0200
                Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult Packaging Practices) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-05-31 08:30 +0200
                Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult  Packaging Practices) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-05-31 17:40 +0200
                Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas Mo Zhou <lumin@debian.org> - 2019-05-29 11:40 +0200
                Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-05-29 13:50 +0200
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                Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Luca Filipozzi <lfilipoz@debian.org> - 2019-05-31 23:10 +0200
                Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Luca Filipozzi <lfilipoz@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 01:00 +0200
                Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 01:00 +0200
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                Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2019-06-02 15:50 +0200
                Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2019-05-30 03:40 +0200
      Re: Consensus Call:  Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16 Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2019-05-26 23:20 +0200
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