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On 2/19/19 7:21 PM, Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 18:48:23 -0800
> David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
>> AFAIK there are no commercial off the shelf (COTS) USB-SATA docks with
>> FOSS hardware (device), firmware (device), or software (device or host).
>>    (If somebody knows of any examples, please post the URL's.)
> 
> I'm still not sure what you're saying - there certainly are COTS
> devices fully supported by FOSS software. E.g., I have a Syba
> SY-ENC50091:
> 
> https://www.sybausa.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=885
> 
> It works fine under Debian without needing any non-free stuff, as far
> as I recall.

The Syba USB-SATA dock works with Debian because the HDD manufacturer, 
Syba, the USB cable manufacturer, the computer manufacturer, and Debian 
have implemented everything needed for an end-to-end connection from the 
HDD firmware kernel to the Debian Linux kernel.  Standards facilitated 
that result.


> If you're objecting to the hardware not being FOSS, my understanding
> is that most useful hardware isn't. Is the SATA hardware itself FOSS?

I agree that, historically, hardware has often been closed-source.  But, 
similar to software, there are open-source hardware projects:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_hardware


David

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