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Re: Can't scan new disk

From	Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Can't scan new disk
Date	2019-02-20 04:30 +0100
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 18:48:23 -0800
David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:

> On 2/19/19 9:59 AM, Celejar wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 14:12:43 -0800
> > David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> >> dock SATA chip -> drive.  While the motherboard stuff can be FOSS based
> >> upon manufacturer supplied reference source code (e.g. Intel), USB drive
> >> docks are typically proprietary and closed-source.  This makes USB docks
> >> next to impossible to trouble-shoot or bug-fix for end-users or FOSS
> >> distributors.
> > 
> > I'm not sure I understood what you're saying here: do you mean that the
> > drivers are closed source, or that the silicon design is closed source?
> > I've used a number of USB-SATA adapters, in docks as well as cables,
> > and they were all supported by standard in-kernel drivers (although
> > some of the hardware may have been at least a bit flaky).

...

> AFAIK there are no commercial off the shelf (COTS) USB-SATA docks with 
> FOSS hardware (device), firmware (device), or software (device or host). 
>   (If somebody knows of any examples, please post the URL's.)

I'm still not sure what you're saying - there certainly are COTS
devices fully supported by FOSS software. E.g., I have a Syba
SY-ENC50091:

https://www.sybausa.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=885

It works fine under Debian without needing any non-free stuff, as far
as I recall.

If you're objecting to the hardware not being FOSS, my understanding
is that most useful hardware isn't. Is the SATA hardware itself FOSS?

Celejar

Thread

Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-16 00:30 +0100
  Re: Can't scan new disk deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-02-16 01:10 +0100
    Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-16 02:50 +0100
  Re: Can't scan new disk songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2019-02-16 01:30 +0100
    Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-16 02:50 +0100
  Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-16 04:20 +0100
    Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-16 21:40 +0100
      Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-16 23:20 +0100
        Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-18 04:20 +0100
          Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-19 00:40 +0100
        Re: Can't scan new disk Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 19:00 +0100
          Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-20 03:50 +0100
            Re: Can't scan new disk Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 04:30 +0100
              Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-20 06:30 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 14:20 +0100
  Re: Can't scan new disk Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-16 09:50 +0100
    Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-16 21:30 +0100
      Re: Can't scan new disk "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 06:10 +0100
        Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-20 07:20 +0100
          Re: Can't scan new disk Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-20 10:30 +0100
            Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-20 10:30 +0100
              Re: Can't scan new disk Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-20 11:30 +0100
          Re: Can't scan new disk "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 10:30 +0100
            Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-20 10:50 +0100
              Re: Can't scan new disk "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-02-20 11:30 +0100
            Re: Can't scan new disk Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-20 13:20 +0100
            Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-24 15:50 +0100
              Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-24 21:30 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-02-24 23:10 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-25 01:10 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2019-02-25 12:40 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-25 15:20 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-25 15:50 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-25 16:00 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-02-25 16:30 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-26 09:30 +0100
              Re: Can't scan new disk David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-02-24 23:10 +0100
              Re: Can't scan new disk "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-02-25 20:20 +0100
          Re: Can't scan new disk Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2019-02-20 18:40 +0100

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