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Re: Can't scan new disk

From David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Can't scan new disk
Date 2019-02-20 03:50 +0100
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On 2/19/19 9:59 AM, Celejar wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 14:12:43 -0800
> David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
>> dock SATA chip -> drive.  While the motherboard stuff can be FOSS based
>> upon manufacturer supplied reference source code (e.g. Intel), USB drive
>> docks are typically proprietary and closed-source.  This makes USB docks
>> next to impossible to trouble-shoot or bug-fix for end-users or FOSS
>> distributors.
> 
> I'm not sure I understood what you're saying here: do you mean that the
> drivers are closed source, or that the silicon design is closed source?
> I've used a number of USB-SATA adapters, in docks as well as cables,
> and they were all supported by standard in-kernel drivers (although
> some of the hardware may have been at least a bit flaky).

The ideal is for both the host and the device at either end of a USB 
cable to be "standards compliant":

https://www.usb.org/


This implies a complete and correct USB hardware/ firmware/ software 
protocol stack on both of them.


I try to buy computers, motherboards, add-on cards, etc., with Intel 
chips because Intel releases open-source reference device driver source 
code for some portion of their products.  Linux, Debian, FreeBSD, and 
other FOSS projects use and include this code (in source and/or binary 
form).  This gives me the best chance of a positive OOTB experience with 
those FOSS operating systems/ distributions:

https://software.intel.com/en-us/open-source


AFAIK there are no commercial off the shelf (COTS) USB-SATA docks with 
FOSS hardware (device), firmware (device), or software (device or host). 
  (If somebody knows of any examples, please post the URL's.)


But, it might be possible to build your own using a FOSS operating 
system/ distribution and a single-board computer with a USB device port 
and a SATA host port:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_single-board_computers#I/O_interfaces_and_ports


David

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Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-16 00:30 +0100
  Re: Can't scan new disk deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-02-16 01:10 +0100
    Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-16 02:50 +0100
  Re: Can't scan new disk songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2019-02-16 01:30 +0100
    Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-16 02:50 +0100
  Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-16 04:20 +0100
    Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-16 21:40 +0100
      Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-16 23:20 +0100
        Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-18 04:20 +0100
          Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-19 00:40 +0100
        Re: Can't scan new disk Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 19:00 +0100
          Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-20 03:50 +0100
            Re: Can't scan new disk Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 04:30 +0100
              Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-20 06:30 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 14:20 +0100
  Re: Can't scan new disk Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-16 09:50 +0100
    Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-16 21:30 +0100
      Re: Can't scan new disk "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 06:10 +0100
        Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-20 07:20 +0100
          Re: Can't scan new disk Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-20 10:30 +0100
            Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-20 10:30 +0100
              Re: Can't scan new disk Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-20 11:30 +0100
          Re: Can't scan new disk "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 10:30 +0100
            Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-20 10:50 +0100
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            Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-24 15:50 +0100
              Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-24 21:30 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-02-24 23:10 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-02-25 01:10 +0100
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                Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-25 15:20 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-25 15:50 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2019-02-25 16:00 +0100
                Re: Can't scan new disk David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-02-25 16:30 +0100
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              Re: Can't scan new disk "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-02-25 20:20 +0100
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