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| From | Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo |
| Date | 2018-08-07 15:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wkano-1dB-1@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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The Wanderer (2018-08-07): > I don't consider that a significant downside; Maybe your uses are too limited for you to experience it. > in some contexts, it may > even be an advantage. No, it may not. With sudo, adding "sh -c" allows to emulate su's behaviour. On the other hand, su cannot emulate sudo's behaviour at all. > An inclination in the direction of doing that would be a mark against > that user being considered sufficiently trustworthy to have the elevated > access to begin with. I was referring to the real world, not wishful thinking. > > Anyone who learns the user's password can obtain the second password > > pretty easily. > How so? Just insert a fake su in their path. There are more subtle ways. > There's a point there, but I do consider the rest of the system (beyond > just the user's account) to be something worth securing, even on a > single-user system. Maybe. But it does not need to be *more* secure than the user's account. Regards, -- Nicolas George
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