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Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo

From Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo
Date 2018-08-07 13:00 +0200
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On 08/07/2018 04:58 AM, Martin Drescher wrote:
> Hi members,
> 
> I'm a little... lets say thoughtful, about the use of 'su' discussed at some points in this list.

I don't recall that discussion. Can you give a link to the archives?

> I have a strong opinion about su, which is, avoid it whenever it is possible and use 'sudo' instead. This is the case in close to a 100% in all cases I can think of.
> This opinion is based on how both programs work and deal with pam and environmental variables. Not to forget: You will not need to share (or in my case, not even set, but lock that account) a root password.
> 
> And I'm curious why Debian still prefers the use of su over sudo?

I'm not sure that is Debian's position. Every time I see a topic 
requiring root privileges sudo is used.

For my personal environment and use pattern I prefer su.
My environment is a single laptop without physical LAN or internet 
connectivity. It is a single user system - I am the only person with 
physical access.

As to use pattern, if I need root privileges, I'm doing experimental 
system restructuring. The closest I come to using sudo is my use of 
Gparted and Synaptic.

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As seen above: use of su vs sudo Martin Drescher <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-07 12:00 +0200
  Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-07 12:50 +0200
    Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-08-07 13:20 +0200
      Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Martin Drescher <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-07 13:30 +0200
        Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-07 17:20 +0200
          Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-07 17:40 +0200
            Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-08-07 18:20 +0200
      Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-07 14:10 +0200
        Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo likcoras <likcoras@riseup.net> - 2018-08-07 14:40 +0200
    Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo likcoras <likcoras@riseup.net> - 2018-08-07 14:00 +0200
  Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-07 13:00 +0200
  Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@fsing.rootsland.net> - 2018-08-07 13:20 +0200
    Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo James Allsopp <jamesaallsopp@googlemail.com> - 2018-08-07 13:30 +0200
      Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-07 13:50 +0200
        Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@fsing.rootsland.net> - 2018-08-07 14:30 +0200
          Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-07 14:30 +0200
        Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-08-07 15:20 +0200
          Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-07 15:50 +0200
      Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-07 14:20 +0200
      Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-08-07 15:30 +0200
    Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-07 13:40 +0200
      Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@fsing.rootsland.net> - 2018-08-07 14:30 +0200
  Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-07 13:30 +0200
    Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-07 13:50 +0200
      Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-07 14:10 +0200
        Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-07 14:30 +0200
          Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-07 15:00 +0200
            Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-07 15:10 +0200
              Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-07 15:30 +0200
                Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-07 15:40 +0200
                Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-07 18:20 +0200
                Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-07 18:40 +0200
                Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-07 18:50 +0200
                Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-07 19:10 +0200
                Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-07 20:10 +0200
                Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-07 20:10 +0200
                Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-07 20:20 +0200
                Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-07 20:50 +0200
            Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-07 15:10 +0200
              Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-07 15:30 +0200
                Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-07 15:50 +0200
                Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-07 15:50 +0200
            Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Nemeth Gyorgy <friczy@freemail.hu> - 2018-08-07 21:10 +0200
              Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-07 22:10 +0200
          Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-07 15:20 +0200
          Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@fsing.rootsland.net> - 2018-08-07 16:10 +0200
        Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-08-07 15:30 +0200
          Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-07 15:40 +0200
        Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-07 18:10 +0200
  Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2018-08-07 14:30 +0200
  Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 16:00 +0200
  Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 18:30 +0200

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