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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Desktop Icon, please. |
| Date | 2025-05-07 06:08 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vvfbeh$uvvj$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On Tue, 5/6/2025 1:19 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> You put it in the 'Search' box (upper-right). You should put it in the
>>> 'path' [1] box, i.e. the box in the middle.
>>> ...
>>> [1] Does someone know the official name of that <beep> box? With an
>>> official reference please.
>>
>> You mean the address bar?
>>
>> https://uis.georgetown.edu/file-explorer/
>
> Yes, that's the 'thing' I mean. But is that the official - i.e.
> Microsoft designated - name?
>
> I have used the term 'address bar' before, by lack of an official/
> 'better' name.
>
> Personally, I don't consider 'address bar' too great, because (IMO)
> it's not really an 'address' in the normal sense, but a path. OTOH,
> lacking a better term, 'address bar' isn't too bad.
>
Technically, it's a URI bar, and "address" is an appropriate twisting
of the name. I would much prefer to describe it as a <beep> box
and not have to explain this to people. It's a URI box, because
\\wallace\shared is a particular format for locating something.
Another format being C:\users\username . There are some other namespaces
that may or may not work. If you enter a thing that a browser might
understand, File Explorer will start your browser for you!
(Note: Do not make a habit out of doing that.)
As for Daniel70s referral to his prowess as a searcher, the
actual search box in the upper right corner of File Explorer,
has some "issues" with the completeness of searches.
cat <=== No (incomplete result, misses stuff)
filename:cat <=== Still No (incomplete result, misses stuff)
filename:*cat* <=== This will likely return a few more results
ext:c <=== returns source.c but also returns keyboard.cat , simply dreadful limitation
ext:"c" <=== returns source.c but you have to remember to enter it this way...
It doesn't support regex, so you cannot tame any bad tendencies the search box has.
ext:^c$ <=== would have returned source.c , but does not work, as ^$ special meaning not supported
filename:^cat <=== This would have meant "begins with cat"... if it had worked.
I'm sure, eventually, with enough attempts, you would find a working syntax.
The constant need to "think up punctuation" spoils the fun.
One of the reasons for using Agent Ransack (a brute force search program),
is the behavior is a bit more predictable, and I cannot really
complain too much about the results. The File Explorer search on the
other hand, the users may not really know exactly what they're missing.
I only discover how much stuff these searches miss, by accident. Agent Ransack
(mythicsoft.com and is their free version) works best if your computer
has an SSD or an NVMe for storage, as the wait for your answer is more
tolerable then. The "sorting" in Agent Ransack, on the results, is more
in line with the actual computation cost, whereas File Explorer can
be slow at times.
Microsoft really could have done a better job on the SearchIndexer.
It could have been made lightning fast (simple: make the bloody
filename-only tick box work properly). Indexing only the filenames,
would have pleased users a lot more, than the behavior that has
existed for at least the last fifteen years. Instead of learning
that people "hate the growing green bar" and fixing it, they
change the green bar into a rotating circle (yikes!). What in
the name of progress does that mean ???
But I suppose now, it'll be replaced by AI, and the search result
will only take an hour to come back :-)
Paul
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