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Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword

From	Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject	Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword
Date	2025-02-02 19:58 -0500
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<vnp4br$udnq$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On Sun, 2/2/2025 7:07 PM, micky wrote:
> This is a win11 post but I included win10 so readers there will see what
> they are in for if they switch to 11.  :-)  
> 
> THE TASK BAR
> So far, the biggest problem is the task bar.  it seems one cannot make
> it more than one line high.   Is there any way around that? 
> 
> I saw the 3 dots to look at more programs but they are so small. I know
> it will lead to mistakes.  
>   
> When the Task Bar was redesigned in win10 I didn't like it and preferred
> the Quick Launch Bar, but I've gotten to like it.  I see there is a
> complicated way to add the QL bar back, but that is only useful for
> starting the program.  The win10 task bar let you see each of multiple
> instances of the program, as with Chrome or Firefox, so you couuld click
> on the one you wanted.   I used 7+ Taskbar TWeaker to ungroup them when
> occasionally something would regroup them but 7+TT is not going to be
> updated for win11. 
> 
> STARTING WINDOWS WITHOUT A PASSWORD
> There are lots of pages showing how to start windows without a password,
> but they all say to use netplwiz, which they say will have a checkbox
> "Require password" and to uncheck that box, but when I use netplwiz,
> there is no such check box.  Is this method obsolete or is it me?  Is
> there a method that works? 
> 

netplwiz stopped working some time ago. There is some registry setting for it.
And these sorts of recipes age rapidly, so there is no reason for
some of these things to still be working today.

1)  https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/auto-sign-in-missing-from-netplwiz/1c06918b-04e0-4b2f-ab67-8b5bd7eee89b

2)  net user username ""         # As Administrator

3)  https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autologon

Note that some recipes that got broken, started working again,
implying a Patch Tuesday broke them and some later fix put
the methods back again. For example, I tried psexec and it
was working again.

Make a backup first. You don't want to try one of these crazy ideas
and end up locked out of your own OS :-)

And this stuff isn't particularly for MSA use. As far as I know
the easy ways are for local accounts. Where toying with the Registry is
sufficient to do the job.

You probably have a password flattener in your Hirens for
things like this. There are two kinds of password attacks.
"Cracking" a password, is so the victim does not know that
you know the password. "Flattening" the password, the victim
can tell that Micky has attacked the machine, and perhaps
Micky and the other party know what the plan is (a password reset).

Whereas an MSA is bound to have some differences in terms
of the implementation. Finding some notes for John the Ripper
on Kali, might tell you how the MSA info is stored (whatever part
of it is locally cached).

Enough recipes you can make a hobby out of this.

If you use File Sharing, it's quite possible the account
lacking the password, is not going to be treated favorably
if you attempt to log into a share protected that way.
Windows does have some visceral responses to blank passwords.

You should always have one account with Administrators capability.
If you lose that, some of the "breaking into the OS" recipes
no longer work. Like using Safe Mode so Windows Defender isn't
running and doing one of the recipes under those conditions.
The recipes are unlikely to work if Windows Defender is running.

And back up the OS, using a method that works. I know the scary
kids like to use broken methods, so they even have to hack
the restore to get it working again :-)

   Paul

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WIN1  1One-line taskbar;   Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-02 19:07 -0500
  Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-02 19:58 -0500
    Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-04 09:31 -0500
  Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-02 20:02 -0500
    Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-03 10:35 +0000
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-03 08:37 -0500
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-04 11:21 +0000
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-04 09:29 -0500
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-04 10:11 -0500
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-04 15:20 +0000
    Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-04 09:28 -0500
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-04 09:57 -0500
  Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-02-03 10:30 +0100
    Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2025-02-03 11:57 +0100
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-02-03 12:25 +0100
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-03 13:03 +0000
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2025-02-03 14:55 +0100
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-03 13:56 +0000
            Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2025-02-03 17:14 +0100
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-03 13:19 +0000
    Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-05 06:33 -0500
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-05 10:12 -0500
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-10 12:02 -0500
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-10 13:23 -0500
            Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 14:38 -0700
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-06 13:19 +0000
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-10 11:35 -0500
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-10 19:16 +0000
            Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 15:13 -0700
              Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-11 11:02 +0000
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-10 17:14 -0500

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