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Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword

From Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword
Date 2025-02-04 10:11 -0500
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On 2/4/2025 9:29 AM, micky wrote:

> I had planned to continue using Open Shell also.  Do you think I should
> install that after the Explorer Patch changes, or before?

   I'm using both on Win10 and Win11. On this Win10 I have
Classic Shell but I expect Open Shell is a safer option for
Win11. I always install that first, mostly just so that I can
use the damn operating system without being harassed by
ads and stock quotes! But I don't think there's a reason that
one must bebefore the other.

   I don't know the details of how either works. My guess is
that both are shell extensions, which are small programs
that get loaded by Explorer to add custom functionality.
All I know is that both are working well for me. You could
certainly do a search online and see if anyone has had trouble.
In my limited experience, Open Shell is critical for making
Win10/11 usable, and EP is a nice luxury for fixing a broken
Win11 taskbar.

> Do the peoople here who have give Newyana a hard time think I can
> actually hurt myself with ExplorerPatch, or any o fthe other
> suggestions?

  It's always caveat emptor. The Registry setting isn't a risk.
Shell extensions can always be a risk if they're not made right.
But I think the complaints about these things are not based on
any data -- at least I haven't seen any reports of problems.
It's more a philosophical or religious position. Some people
worship Microsoft (or Apple) and don't think it's right to mess
with the product. "If God meant for you to be able to find your
programs then He would have given you a functional Start
Menu."

   Those are usually the same people who say one should never
run as admin. Interestingly, these attitudes don't derive from
objective facts about security and dependability. Rather, they
come mostly from people used to computer use in corporate
settings, where it's not safe or proper to let employees control
the computer.

   There's no reason not to adjust the tool to fit your needs.
But there can always be risks, so one needs to check it
out and make backups with any experimentation. Of course,
there are some crazy-ass, reckless things that one should
never do without backup and a recent disk image, like letting
Microsoft install one of their dripfeed updates. :)

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WIN1  1One-line taskbar;   Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-02 19:07 -0500
  Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-02 19:58 -0500
    Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-04 09:31 -0500
  Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-02 20:02 -0500
    Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-03 10:35 +0000
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-03 08:37 -0500
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-04 11:21 +0000
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-04 09:29 -0500
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-04 10:11 -0500
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-04 15:20 +0000
    Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-04 09:28 -0500
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-04 09:57 -0500
  Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-02-03 10:30 +0100
    Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2025-02-03 11:57 +0100
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-02-03 12:25 +0100
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-03 13:03 +0000
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2025-02-03 14:55 +0100
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-03 13:56 +0000
            Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2025-02-03 17:14 +0100
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-03 13:19 +0000
    Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-05 06:33 -0500
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-05 10:12 -0500
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-10 12:02 -0500
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-10 13:23 -0500
            Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 14:38 -0700
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-06 13:19 +0000
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-10 11:35 -0500
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-10 19:16 +0000
            Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 15:13 -0700
              Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-11 11:02 +0000
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-10 17:14 -0500

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