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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] |
| Date | 2025-01-20 09:20 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 1/20/2025 7:07 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
>
>> I don't particularly like that the (Microsoft) Phone Link app requires
>> a Microsoft Account (at least to set it up) and that's why I don't use
>> it (because I don't want to have/use a Microsoft Account), but what
>> Newyana2 says is of course not true: You don't give Microsoft access to
>> your computer and your phone. You allow a Microsoftapp on your phone
>> to talk to a Microsoftapp on your computer (and vice versa). That's
>> all.
>
> My worry is that having signed-in to a MSA in order to allow the Phone
> Link App to work, will any other apps feel at liberty to use that same
> MSA for other purposes?
>
And if you care about privacy at all, there's the simple
fact that Microsoft now knows your phone AND your
computer, likely having collected unique IDs and so on.
Frank, of course, is talking nonsense, exercising his
bile ducts. Microsoft taking over your phone would
be malware. But MS is going to have to become more like
Google if they want to make money with ads and/or selling
personal data. By letting them ID your cellphone you give
them potential access to a whole realm of ad/surveillance
partners. And only MS can combine the cellphone data with
the Windows PC data. So that could put them in a
powerful position as an ad middleman.
It would be hard to overestimate these kinds of connections.
Remember when Google got caught slurping wifi data from
their streetview vans? Why the heck would they bother to
collect 30 seconds of your Internet activity? What value could
it possibly have? The value is cumulative. For Google, every
data bit counts. And combining/analyzing them all is nearly
cost-free. That's why they run an ad/surveillance monopoly.
They tirelessly collect every single data bit that they can, no
matter how small. They also have partners, such as credit card
companies.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/05/23/google-now-knows-when-you-are-at-a-cash-register-and-how-much-you-are-spending/
Now with so-called AI they not only know where you are, what
you've bought, what's in your email, and so on. They can also
likely predict that you'll be driving along abc street at 10:15 AM,
listening to a particular streaming music service, and it would be
a good time to send you an ad for new tires. Further, they can
directly sell their intel about you to others.
If Microsoft ends up on your cellphone, there are possible
tie-ins like selling you an Android Copilot app. But it also potentially
puts them in the surveillance catbird seat. That's something they've
mostly stayed out of in the past. They need businesses to trust them,
so they can't afford to play dirty like Google/Amazon/Facebook/Apple.
But now that they're getting into ads as a part of Windows profits,
they need to go whole hog or they just won't be able to charge
lucrative rates for ad space.... If you look at it that way, with
Microsoft controlling Windows, they could easily give Google a run
for their money by being the only sleazeball surveillance bigwig to
connect all devices intimately.
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Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-17 13:16 +0000
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Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 11:56 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-15 23:08 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-15 23:13 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 09:19 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-16 11:13 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 13:14 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-17 13:49 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 12:07 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Boris <nospam@invalid.com> - 2025-01-16 04:20 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 09:50 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 21:45 -0700
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-16 12:52 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-17 05:01 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 14:52 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 15:24 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-19 21:39 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 16:59 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 17:16 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 19:54 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-19 21:44 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 17:05 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-19 22:13 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-20 13:44 +0100
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-20 13:31 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 08:59 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-20 11:34 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-20 12:07 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 09:20 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:16 -0700
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 12:29 -0700
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-30 20:23 +1100
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-20 15:15 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-17 15:17 +0100
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Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-16 09:11 +0000
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