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Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account

From	Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account
Date	2025-01-16 11:13 -0500
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On 1/16/2025 9:19 AM, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 1/15/2025 11:13 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
>> On 1/15/2025 11:08 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
>>
>> As I thought, see here:
>>
>> https://www.howtogeek.com/836157/how-to-use-windows-11-with-a-local-account/
>>
>>    Scroll down to the Rufus option. But there is one catch with
>> that: You'll need to figure out what hardware you have and
>> get drivers. Dell is a pain that way. They like to get the drivers
>> and put them into their own package. You may need something
>> like CPUID to fund out exactly what the motherboard, graphics,
>> etc are. Maybe save a copy of your restore partition to be on
>> the safe side.
> 
> During WinPE, the screen is driven by the Microsoft Basic Display Adapter
> driver. The resolution is 1024x768. On some monitors, you might see
> a distortion because the aspect ratio is not very close. Once the
> OS is installed, on the second reboot you might see "searching for display driver"
> as it goes to the Internet and gets the correct graphics driver to
> replace MBDA.
> 
> The SATA driver could be MSAHCI.
> 
> There are a couple Intel RAID drivers.
> 
> There will be other drivers which are missing,
> but even a thing like a PERC, if you were running
> the Server Edition it might have a PERC for you.
> when installing WinXP, you might remember the names of
> RAID controllers streaming by on the screen, as
> Windows "tried on different pairs of shoes" :-)
> 
> Microsoft should have a USB driver, like a USBport.inf .
> It could be an XHCI driver. There is an EHCI and an OHCI
> driver as well.
> 
> Where the media will wobble a bit, is NIC drivers. Intel
> has been on a bit of a spree, and it is possible there could
> be NICs or Wifi which are not on your DVD. On brand new motherboards,
> this is why I keep my USB3 ASIX GbE NIC adapter handy. Plug that in
> and the Microsoft DVDs have the ASIX NDIS driver for that. And boom,
> you have the Internetz.
> 
> The driver situation has improved a bit since WinXP.
> 
> You don't absolutely need all the drivers, during install.
> You need enough to tip the OS upright, plus a means
> to download the rest.
> 
> The chipset driver for my X79 PCH are no longer in the
> Microsoft catalog, but fortunately I found the Patsburg
> file I needed on the Intel site (after enough Googling).
> These are not "essential" drivers -- they inject the correct
> text strings for the System section of Device Manager.
> They're not "tipping upright" materials, and are
> merely cosmetic. But when missing, annoying nonetheless.
> 
> When snarfing drivers and building a driver tree, things
> like "bridges" follow standards, so for example, a single
> driver can be used for the snakes and ladders of one
> of the bus types. These are built-ins, and are table
> stakes for any OS that thinks it can install on
> arbitrary hardware. We don't usually discuss these things,
> but they're essential, and by following standards,
> are practically invisible today.
> 

   I wasn't thinking of problems with drivers in general. I just
meant that it could be tricky finding drivers for a Dell with
generic Windows, because Dell likes to make their own driver
installers, based on PC model rather than the hardware. So,
for example, if you need an audio driver for an XPS 2000
(if that exists) then you go to Dell and download a Dell
installer that gives no indication of what audio chip you
have.

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Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Boris <nospam@invalid.com> - 2025-01-16 01:06 +0000
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account "J. Weaver Jr." <jwjr@poREMOVETHISbox.com> - 2025-01-15 20:44 -0500
    Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-01-16 02:02 +0000
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 22:16 -0700
        Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Boris <nospam@invalid.com> - 2025-01-16 06:08 +0000
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 11:05 -0700
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 23:04 -0500
    Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:36 +0000
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 13:08 -0500
        Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-17 13:16 +0000
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-17 16:13 +0000
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 11:56 -0500
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-15 23:08 -0500
    Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-15 23:13 -0500
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 09:19 -0500
        Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-16 11:13 -0500
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 13:14 -0500
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-17 13:49 +0000
              Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 12:07 -0500
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Boris <nospam@invalid.com> - 2025-01-16 04:20 +0000
    Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 09:50 -0500
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 21:45 -0700
    Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-16 12:52 +0000
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-17 05:01 +0000
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 14:52 -0500
        Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 15:24 -0500
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-19 21:39 +0000
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 16:59 -0500
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 17:16 -0500
              Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 19:54 -0500
        Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-19 21:44 +0000
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 17:05 -0500
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-19 22:13 +0000
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-20 13:44 +0100
              Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-20 13:31 +0000
              Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 08:59 -0500
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-20 11:34 +0000
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-20 12:07 +0000
              Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 09:20 -0500
              Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:16 -0700
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 12:29 -0700
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-30 20:23 +1100
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-20 15:15 +0000
    Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-17 15:17 +0100
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 10:22 -0700
        Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-18 21:05 +0100
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 12:32 -0700
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-16 09:11 +0000
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-01-16 17:26 +0100

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