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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] |
| Date | 2025-01-19 15:24 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On Sun, 1/19/2025 2:52 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 1/16/2025 7:52 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>> I never want an MSA for signing-in, fair enough I can avoid that, but it annoys me when certain Win11 features require an MSA for no apparent reason, e.g the PhoneLink app.
>>
>
> I expect that's only going to get worse. Windows As a Service.
> Isn't a Microsoft Account the same as a Windows Store account?
> So you need to be prepared to sidestep the increasing number of
> cowpies. The clever thing with making you sign up for PhoneLink
> is that you're apparently connecting through their server, so you
> have to give them access to your computer AND your cellphone,
> linking both to your MS ID.
>
> And don't think that you have privacy simply by not
> signing up. You have the advantage of not directly, voluntarily
> linking your ID to your computer and cellphone in MS records, but
> the number of processes calling home on Win10/11 is astonishing. If
> you don't block them with a firewall then Win10/11 is reporting most
> of what you do. And that's not counting the 3rd-party programs trying
> to call home.
I'm not sure that everything from the Microsoft Store needs an MSA.
If there are any sort of Digital Rights Management issues for
the product ("licensed for use on one machine and one account"), then
chances are it could profitably use an MSA to track the license details
of that product.
If you're downloading Ubuntu for the Bash Shell from the Microsoft Store,
that is a FOSS and it's usage is not tracked like a paid product might be.
I'm pretty sure I've pulled a Ubuntu from the Microsoft Store for a
Windows installation where my account is Bullwinkle (local account).
You don't need a credit card to enter the Microsoft Store.
A credit card could be involved for purchases with a price set on them.
And logically at least, you might need the MSA for materials
where the scope of the license is more narrow than the Ubuntu image download.
Paul
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Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 11:05 -0700
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 23:04 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:36 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 13:08 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-17 13:16 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-17 16:13 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 11:56 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-15 23:08 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-15 23:13 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 09:19 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-16 11:13 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 13:14 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-17 13:49 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 12:07 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Boris <nospam@invalid.com> - 2025-01-16 04:20 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 09:50 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 21:45 -0700
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-16 12:52 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-17 05:01 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 14:52 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 15:24 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-19 21:39 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 16:59 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 17:16 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 19:54 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-19 21:44 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 17:05 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-19 22:13 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-20 13:44 +0100
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-20 13:31 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 08:59 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-20 11:34 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-20 12:07 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 09:20 -0500
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:16 -0700
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 12:29 -0700
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Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-20 15:15 +0000
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-17 15:17 +0100
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 10:22 -0700
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-18 21:05 +0100
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 12:32 -0700
Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-16 09:11 +0000
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