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Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account

From ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account
Date 2025-01-16 11:05 -0700
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Boris wrote on 1/15/25 11:08 PM:
> =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?= <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:vma4mv$3ch82$1@dont-email.me:
> 
>> Ant wrote on 1/15/25 7:02 PM:
>>> J. Weaver Jr. <jwjr@poremovethisbox.com> wrote:
>>>> On 1/15/2025 8:06 PM, Boris wrote:
>>>>> Of course, I'm back at being asked for a Microsoft account email,
>>>>> which I don't have.  I guess I could create an account, but I seem to
>>>>> remember that if Microsoft sets up the machine, the user's default
>>>>> folder will be assigned a cumbersome alpha-numeric-special character
>>>>> name, which can't be renamed. Am I remembering correctly?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm searching for a remedy.  Does anyone know what the latest
>>>>> work-around is?
>>>
>>>> What we did: set up with a Microsoft account, create a new user with
>>>> Administrator privs, log out, log in as the new Admin, delete the
>>>> Microsoft account user.
>>>
>>>> You get to redo part of the initial setup, and you'll still get the
>>>> occasional nag to "Sign in to connect your favorite Microsoft apps to
>>>> your device", but that's it.  -JW
>>>
>>> At least you save your activation key with MS account too which could
>>> be handy if you ever need to reinstall from scratch.
>>>
>>
>> Not entirely true.
>>    No such thing as an activation key
>>    When setting up the initial account(Microsoft Account[aka MSA],
>> Activation is digitally linked to the device and also to the MSA on
>> MSFT's backend servers.
>>    When a Local Account is recreated that same device remains diigitally
>> linked to the same backend MSFT server(i.e. Activation is always linked
>> to the device)
>> Removing the MSA account does not remove the backend linkage to the
>> device. Windows 8/10/11 can all be reinstalled/clean installed 'from
>> scratch' since the device is digitally linked. A Microsoft account is
>> not necessary to reinstall/clean install Windows.
> 
> I'm confused. You say that Windows 8/10/11 can all be reinsalled/clean
> installed "from scratch' because they are digitally linked, but a MSA is
> not necessary to reinstall/clean install Windows.  That sounds
> contradictory.  What am I misunderstanding?
> 
> 
>>
>> The benefit of the MSA comes into play if the device has a major
>> hardware change(CPU, Motherboard),
> 
> I'm not one to swap out a CPU or motherboard, but I see that could be
> useful if one rebuilds/upgrades hardware.  Is there any advantage, to a
> user like me, to otherwise have a MSA?
> 
>>    - The MSA linkage to the backend server provides an additional feature
>> option in Windows Troubleshooting(that does not exist when an MSA-device
>> combo is not linked to the backend server). That MSA only available
>> Troubleshooter feature provides an easy option to reactivate the device
>> after a cpu/mobo change without extra steps *and without a product key
>> entry'
>>
> 


1. Windows with an MSA logon - device footprint is digitally linked and 
also linked to the MSA. The MSA linkage provides one single additional 
Troubleshooting option.
  - the additional troubleshooting option enables the user to activate 
Windows after and only after a major hardware change(CPU or motherboard)
or
2. Windows without an MSA logon but with a Local Account logon - device 
footprint is digital linked but without that additional Troubleshooting 
option

The device footprint's digital link is stored on the MSFT server for 
both(1 and/or 2).
  => the device footprint digital link is the only thing necessary to 
activate Windows and its license for use after a reinstall or clean install.
  -i.e. if the cpu or mobo is changed/replaced, that extra MSA only 
troubleshooting option provides a simple selectable feature to inform of 
the major hardware change and activate Windows after a reinstall/clean 
install and updates the device footprint linkage and licensing.  If no 
major hardware change, the existing device footprint(MSA or Local 
account) digital linkage is the only requirement necessary to 
reinstall/clean install Windows.


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...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Boris <nospam@invalid.com> - 2025-01-16 01:06 +0000
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account "J. Weaver Jr." <jwjr@poREMOVETHISbox.com> - 2025-01-15 20:44 -0500
    Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-01-16 02:02 +0000
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 22:16 -0700
        Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Boris <nospam@invalid.com> - 2025-01-16 06:08 +0000
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 11:05 -0700
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 23:04 -0500
    Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:36 +0000
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 13:08 -0500
        Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-17 13:16 +0000
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-17 16:13 +0000
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 11:56 -0500
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-15 23:08 -0500
    Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-15 23:13 -0500
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 09:19 -0500
        Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-16 11:13 -0500
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 13:14 -0500
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-17 13:49 +0000
              Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 12:07 -0500
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Boris <nospam@invalid.com> - 2025-01-16 04:20 +0000
    Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 09:50 -0500
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 21:45 -0700
    Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-16 12:52 +0000
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-17 05:01 +0000
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 14:52 -0500
        Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 15:24 -0500
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-19 21:39 +0000
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 16:59 -0500
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 17:16 -0500
              Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 19:54 -0500
        Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-19 21:44 +0000
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 17:05 -0500
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-19 22:13 +0000
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-20 13:44 +0100
              Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-20 13:31 +0000
              Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 08:59 -0500
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-20 11:34 +0000
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-20 12:07 +0000
              Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 09:20 -0500
              Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:16 -0700
            Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 12:29 -0700
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-30 20:23 +1100
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account [resend] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-20 15:15 +0000
    Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-17 15:17 +0100
      Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 10:22 -0700
        Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-18 21:05 +0100
          Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 12:32 -0700
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-16 09:11 +0000
  Re: Installing Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-01-16 17:26 +0100

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