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Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update

From Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update
Date 2024-12-19 08:52 -0500
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On 12/18/2024 4:52 PM, T wrote:
> On 12/18/24 05:42, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> Distros cover a vast spectrum. I tested one a couple months
>>> ago, put it on a USB stick and it CRASHED on boot. That's
>>> about as low as a distro can go :-/ You can't have a worse
>>> launch than that. Normally that does not happen.
>>
>> I've had that happen a number of times. It's part of why I no longer 
>> feel the need to waste my time with Linux.
> 
> This is a self inflicted wound.  If you look for
> bad spins, you will find them.
> 
> You need to user good distros.  I have yet to find a spin
> from Fedora that does not work.
> 

   Fedora erased my boot manager without asking. I asked about
it in their Reddit group. I was told that it's supposed to do that
because "most people are confused by multi-booting".

   I've had similar problems with other Linux versions. Suse broke
secure boot and I was lucky to get the system back at all. It
just left me with one line of text on a black screen that said
something like, "Something just went very wrong."

   People need to understand that Linux is a car kit missing a few
parts. If you'd rather be installing a hood scoop that doesn't fit
than driving somewhere, then Linux is for you. You'll never
have to move your hot rod from the front lawn. If you're a Linux
expert setting up web servers, Linux is for you. If you want a
free code base to design a kiosk system, Linux is for you. If you
want a functional computer to do stuff? Not so much. If you're
completely incompetent then get a Mac. If you're a "power user"
then get Windows. Don't waste time with Linux.

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I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2024-12-16 22:27 -0500
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-16 23:34 -0500
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2024-12-17 09:45 +0000
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-17 10:35 +0000
    Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Elon M <noreply@hyhgfrtgf.com> - 2024-12-17 16:45 +0000
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-17 07:13 -0500
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2024-12-17 13:28 +0000
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 09:08 -0500
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 11:28 -0700
    Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-17 18:40 +0000
      Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 17:10 -0500
        Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 14:26 -0800
          Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Undecided User <spam-here@linux.org> - 2024-12-18 00:47 +0000
            Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0800
              Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-18 08:44 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 23:56 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 00:02 -0800
            Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-18 01:02 -0500
              Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 23:54 -0800
              Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 08:42 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 13:52 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-18 16:19 -0600
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 15:28 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 08:52 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-19 11:21 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 12:19 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 13:44 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-19 22:12 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 20:05 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 15:14 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 09:42 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 22:30 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-20 12:22 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 15:55 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 22:41 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:26 -0700
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 04:44 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-22 08:16 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 08:39 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 09:57 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 17:49 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 14:06 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 16:16 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-23 19:10 -0600
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 17:23 -0800
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                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 15:32 -0600
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 20:07 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 20:13 -0600
    Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-17 17:33 -0500
      Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:51 -0500
        Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0800
      Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 19:12 -0700
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:53 +0800
    Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-21 08:18 -0500
      Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 23:11 +0800
        Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-23 11:20 -0500
          Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 00:48 +0800
            Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-23 13:04 -0500
          Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 11:39 -0700
            Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-23 17:10 -0500
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-02 00:38 -0800

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