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| Subject | Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update |
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| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
| Message-ID | <LiA8P.39331$ZAue.7562@fx12.iad> (permalink) |
| Organization | usenet-news.net |
| Date | 2024-12-18 08:42 -0500 |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
Le 2024-12-18 à 01:02, Paul a écrit :
> On Tue, 12/17/2024 7:47 PM, Undecided User wrote:
>> On 17/12/2024 22:26, T wrote:
>>> On 12/17/24 14:10, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>> And suddenly lose the ability to wake from sleep. I'm sure people will
>>>> Ubuntu-based distributions
>>>
>>> Ubooboo is not what it use to be. There are other
>>> better distros now. Fedora for instance.
>>>
>>
>> When you say something is better, can you define what criteria you use
>> to come to this decision?
>>
>> I always thought that Linux is Linux with a different lipstick to make
>> it look different.
>>
>
> Ubuntu is the product of Canonical. Canonical is not traded on
> the stock market. It is a private firm, mostly funded from the
> private fortune of Mark Shuttleworth.
>
> Mark Shuttleworth wants to retire. He wants his money back.
> He's poured a lot of money into that company.
He might as well have put that money in a hole, doused it in petrol and
thrown a lit match.
> He wanted to do an IPO (Initial Public Offering). A couple
> potential investors explained to him during this period, that
> they were not currently interested in the company, but
> if Mark did "this and that" to the company, they would be
> interested. By doing an IPO and trading on the stock market,
> Mark could at least extract his money, without making
> a huge huge fortune while doing so. He might be able to
> manage to recover what he has spent. Canonical is not
> a "strong play". The investors will not be "flies on honey",
> it will be a relatively quiet IPO.
>
> He tries to emulate Red Hat a bit, in doing service
> contracts for people. He promotes "Ubuntu Pro" by giving
> that away to home users, in the hope of promoting it.
Regardless of how people feel about Ubuntu, I truly believe that much of
Linux wouldn't be approachable today were it not for the efforts of
Ubuntu back in the 2000s. People also don't like Snap, but it is
objectively superior to Flatpak.
> *******
>
> One of the side effects of this "business chat" above, is
> it has affected the desktop code, appearance and behavior.
> The focus of the product, is no longer "the best possible
> user experience". It's a product that promotes servicing
> for a rental fee (maybe $100 a year, not really sure). As
> users, we are all the time seeing things we would rather not
> see ("SNAPS"). which is why, some OTHER distro, where the focus is
> NOT the business chat above, is better suited to our needs.
> For example, a 6GB DVD image, once the Ubuntu install finishes,
> it has practically no utilities on board... because of the
> huge space wasted by... SNAPS. The Gnome Desktop, to handcuff
> the user, is a giant fucking SNAP.
>
> Distros cover a vast spectrum. I tested one a couple months
> ago, put it on a USB stick and it CRASHED on boot. That's
> about as low as a distro can go :-/ You can't have a worse
> launch than that. Normally that does not happen.
I've had that happen a number of times. It's part of why I no longer
feel the need to waste my time with Linux.
< snip >
CrudeSausage
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Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-16 23:34 -0500
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Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-17 07:13 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2024-12-17 13:28 +0000
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 09:08 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 11:28 -0700
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-17 18:40 +0000
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 17:10 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 14:26 -0800
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Undecided User <spam-here@linux.org> - 2024-12-18 00:47 +0000
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0800
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Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 23:56 -0800
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Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-18 01:02 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 23:54 -0800
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 08:42 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 13:52 -0800
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Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 12:19 -0500
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