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| From | alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | aus.cars, aus.computers |
| Subject | Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem |
| Date | 2024-10-03 06:55 +1000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vdkc0c$3cm51$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
Mighty Mouse wrote: > Keithr0 wrote: >> On 2/10/2024 11:14 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>> Keithr0 wrote: >>>> On 30/09/2024 10:58 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>> Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>>> On 30-Sept-24 6:48 pm, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>>>> On 30-Sept-24 3:50 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>>> Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 28-Sept-24 5:48 pm, Keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> It's the manufacturers software. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/09/flaw-in-kia-web-portal-let- >>>>>>>>>> researchers-track-hack-cars/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The same potential issue applies to any "internet of things" >>>>>>>>> device in your home. If they are on your internal LAN (by >>>>>>>>> accessing your WiFi, for example), then they're providing a >>>>>>>>> tunnel from the supplier's computer system through your >>>>>>>>> firewall, and you have no idea how well the supplier's end is >>>>>>>>> protected. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I won't have any internet 'listening' devices in any home I live in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, but it's not just those. Anything that can be remotely >>>>>>> updated automatically (sometimes whether you want it to be, or >>>>>>> not), or which can be talked to via a smartphone, will usually >>>>>>> work by phoning home, >>>>> >>>>> cameras for instance. I have all internal cameras set facing wall >>>>> surfaces, so even if they were hacked nothing would be seen. but I >>>>> would know if they were hacked because they would have turned to >>>>> face into the rooms. I turn them via smartphone control to monitor >>>>> the rooms if away for any length of time, like holidays. but if >>>>> they were hacked I'm not sure what info could be got from them. >>>> >>>> Have you ever considered that you might be paranoid? >>>> >>>> Anyway anybody hacking into your "Security" cameras (notoriously >>>> easy to hack) would likely be more interested in incorporating them >>>> into a botnet rather than observing whatever disgusting things that >>>> you get up to in your house. >>> >>> perhaps your mum never told you.. "if you don't have anything >>> worthwhile to say, don't say anything". or if she did, you didn't listen >>> >> Perhaps you should have thought of that before cross-posting a stupid >> Elon Musk rant across the Usenet. > > he's a hell of a lot smarter and successful than you,... Eh? Could you be a bit more specific? alvey
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Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-09-28 19:48 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-09-28 20:36 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-09-28 21:27 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2024-09-30 12:48 +0800
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-09-30 17:50 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:48 +0800
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:49 +0800
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-09-30 22:58 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-02 08:55 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-02 10:30 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-02 12:27 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-02 13:56 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-03 06:51 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 13:33 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-03 15:00 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 17:46 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 18:37 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 19:48 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 20:08 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-03 22:52 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-10-04 08:57 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 10:31 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 10:51 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 10:37 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-04 11:07 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 14:19 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-10-05 16:49 +0800
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 19:33 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-06 00:02 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 06:43 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-10-05 16:43 +0800
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-03 22:55 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 00:13 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 00:37 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-04 09:03 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-04 11:11 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Camela Toe <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 11:55 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 14:17 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-10-05 14:07 +0800
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 19:49 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-05 21:12 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 10:03 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-02 11:14 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-02 15:57 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-02 17:37 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-03 06:55 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-03 07:28 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 13:21 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 12:08 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 13:42 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-03 14:48 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 16:56 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-10-03 13:06 +0800
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 17:44 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 21:37 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-04 16:47 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-10-04 17:07 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 19:26 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 19:42 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 20:00 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 19:15 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-04 20:03 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 22:33 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 19:46 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-05 21:11 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-05 22:40 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem jonz <not-here@over-there.org> - 2024-10-06 16:10 +1100
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 19:23 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 07:19 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Lindsay <lindsay00@nunnya.biz> - 2024-10-05 08:14 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 10:51 +1000
Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-05 10:43 +1000
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