Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem

From	Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au>
Newsgroups	aus.cars, aus.computers
Subject	Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem
Date	2024-10-02 08:55 +1000
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On 30/09/2024 10:58 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 30-Sept-24 6:48 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 30-Sept-24 3:50 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>> On 28-Sept-24 5:48 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> It's the manufacturers software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/09/flaw-in-kia-web-portal-let- 
>>>>>> researchers-track-hack-cars/
>>>>>
>>>>> The same potential issue applies to any "internet of things" device 
>>>>> in your home. If they are on your internal LAN (by accessing your 
>>>>> WiFi, for example), then they're providing a tunnel from the 
>>>>> supplier's computer system through your firewall, and you have no 
>>>>> idea how well the supplier's end is protected.
>>>>
>>>> I won't have any internet 'listening' devices in any home I live in
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, but it's not just those. Anything that can be remotely updated 
>>> automatically (sometimes whether you want it to be, or not), or which 
>>> can be talked to via a smartphone, will usually work by phoning home, 
> 
> cameras for instance. I have all internal cameras set facing wall 
> surfaces, so even if they were hacked nothing would be seen. but I would 
> know if they were hacked because they would have turned to face into the 
> rooms. I turn them via smartphone control to monitor the rooms if away 
> for any length of time, like holidays. but if they were hacked I'm not 
> sure what info could be got from them.

Have you ever considered that you might be paranoid?

Anyway anybody hacking into your "Security" cameras (notoriously easy to 
hack) would likely be more interested in incorporating them into a 
botnet rather than observing whatever disgusting things that you get up 
to in your house.

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Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-09-28 19:48 +1000
  Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-09-28 20:36 +1000
    Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-09-28 21:27 +1000
  Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2024-09-30 12:48 +0800
    Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-09-30 17:50 +1000
      Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:48 +0800
        Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:49 +0800
          Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-09-30 22:58 +1000
            Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-02 08:55 +1000
              Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-02 10:30 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-02 12:27 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-02 13:56 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-03 06:51 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 13:33 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-03 15:00 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 17:46 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 18:37 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 19:48 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 20:08 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-03 22:52 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-10-04 08:57 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 10:31 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 10:51 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 10:37 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-04 11:07 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 14:19 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-10-05 16:49 +0800
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 19:33 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-06 00:02 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 06:43 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-10-05 16:43 +0800
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-03 22:55 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 00:13 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 00:37 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-04 09:03 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-04 11:11 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Camela Toe <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 11:55 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 14:17 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-10-05 14:07 +0800
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 19:49 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-05 21:12 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 10:03 +1000
              Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-02 11:14 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-02 15:57 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-02 17:37 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-03 06:55 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-03 07:28 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 13:21 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 12:08 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 13:42 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-03 14:48 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 16:56 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-10-03 13:06 +0800
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 17:44 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 21:37 +1000
    Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-04 16:47 +1000
      Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-10-04 17:07 +1000
        Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 19:26 +1000
        Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 19:42 +1000
          Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 20:00 +1000
      Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 19:15 +1000
        Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-04 20:03 +1000
          Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 22:33 +1000
            Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 19:46 +1000
              Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-05 21:11 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-05 22:40 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem jonz <not-here@over-there.org> - 2024-10-06 16:10 +1100
      Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 19:23 +1000
        Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 07:19 +1000
          Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Lindsay <lindsay00@nunnya.biz> - 2024-10-05 08:14 +1000
            Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 10:51 +1000
          Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-05 10:43 +1000

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