Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem

From	Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au>
Newsgroups	aus.cars
Subject	Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem
Followup-To	alt.idiots
Date	2024-10-02 15:57 +1000
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On 2/10/2024 11:14 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 30/09/2024 10:58 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 30-Sept-24 6:48 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>> On 30-Sept-24 3:50 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>>> On 28-Sept-24 5:48 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> It's the manufacturers software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/09/flaw-in-kia-web-portal-let- 
>>>>>>>> researchers-track-hack-cars/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The same potential issue applies to any "internet of things" 
>>>>>>> device in your home. If they are on your internal LAN (by 
>>>>>>> accessing your WiFi, for example), then they're providing a 
>>>>>>> tunnel from the supplier's computer system through your firewall, 
>>>>>>> and you have no idea how well the supplier's end is protected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I won't have any internet 'listening' devices in any home I live in
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, but it's not just those. Anything that can be remotely updated 
>>>>> automatically (sometimes whether you want it to be, or not), or 
>>>>> which can be talked to via a smartphone, will usually work by 
>>>>> phoning home, 
>>>
>>> cameras for instance. I have all internal cameras set facing wall 
>>> surfaces, so even if they were hacked nothing would be seen. but I 
>>> would know if they were hacked because they would have turned to face 
>>> into the rooms. I turn them via smartphone control to monitor the 
>>> rooms if away for any length of time, like holidays. but if they were 
>>> hacked I'm not sure what info could be got from them.
>>
>> Have you ever considered that you might be paranoid?
>>
>> Anyway anybody hacking into your "Security" cameras (notoriously easy 
>> to hack) would likely be more interested in incorporating them into a 
>> botnet rather than observing whatever disgusting things that you get 
>> up to in your house.
> 
> perhaps your mum never told you.. "if you don't have anything worthwhile 
> to say, don't say anything". or if she did, you didn't listen
> 
Perhaps you should have thought of that before cross-posting a stupid 
Elon Musk rant across the Usenet. Now aus.cars and aus.computers are 
polluted with a stupid argument between Rod Speed and Usenet's No.1 idiot.

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Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-09-28 19:48 +1000
  Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-09-28 20:36 +1000
    Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-09-28 21:27 +1000
  Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2024-09-30 12:48 +0800
    Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-09-30 17:50 +1000
      Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:48 +0800
        Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:49 +0800
          Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-09-30 22:58 +1000
            Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-02 08:55 +1000
              Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-02 10:30 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-02 12:27 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-02 13:56 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-03 06:51 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 13:33 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-03 15:00 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 17:46 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 18:37 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 19:48 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 20:08 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-03 22:52 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-10-04 08:57 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 10:31 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 10:51 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 10:37 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-04 11:07 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 14:19 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-10-05 16:49 +0800
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 19:33 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-06 00:02 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 06:43 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-10-05 16:43 +0800
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-03 22:55 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 00:13 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 00:37 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-04 09:03 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-04 11:11 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Camela Toe <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 11:55 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 14:17 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-10-05 14:07 +0800
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 19:49 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-05 21:12 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 10:03 +1000
              Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-02 11:14 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-02 15:57 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-02 17:37 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-03 06:55 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-03 07:28 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 13:21 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 12:08 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 13:42 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-03 14:48 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 16:56 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-10-03 13:06 +0800
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-03 17:44 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-03 21:37 +1000
    Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-04 16:47 +1000
      Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-10-04 17:07 +1000
        Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 19:26 +1000
        Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 19:42 +1000
          Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 20:00 +1000
      Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 19:15 +1000
        Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-04 20:03 +1000
          Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 22:33 +1000
            Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 19:46 +1000
              Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-05 21:11 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-05 22:40 +1000
                Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem jonz <not-here@over-there.org> - 2024-10-06 16:10 +1100
      Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-04 19:23 +1000
        Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 07:19 +1000
          Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Lindsay <lindsay00@nunnya.biz> - 2024-10-05 08:14 +1000
            Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 10:51 +1000
          Re: Chinese software isn't the biggest problem Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-05 10:43 +1000

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