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Re: App

From	Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage
Subject	Re: App
Date	2024-05-05 13:59 +1000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<v1707u$1lmk4$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 05/05/24 02:56, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Sat, 4 May 2024 02:11:51 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/4/2024 1:01 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>> Yes, they're all programs, but some are applications, like word
>>> processors, spreadsheets, databases etc.
>>>
>>> But I have a program called "Glary Utilities", which is not an
>>> application. It just helps the computer to run better. Likewise,
>>> the operating system is a program, but not an application.
>>
>> The operating system is not a program. It is an executive.
>
> In MyEnglish the definition of a program is "a set of instructions to
> operate a computer". Is this "Executive" not that?

It's all software, of course, but a person writing operating systems
code has to be aware of hardware features that the average applications
programmer never comes into contact with. For certain functions, e.g.
thread switching, it might be necessary to descend into assembly language.

There's another distinction that occurs to me. An application program
has a beginning, a middle, and an end. It does it job and then
terminates. The operating system never terminates until the whole
computer is shut down.

The distinction is becoming fuzzier now that some operating systems are
built in layers. The bottom-level operating system is probably small and
does only some basic things. (Typically thread switching and memory
management.) Then another operating system is built on top of that. And
maybe even another on top of that.

-- 
Peter Moylan                         http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

Thread

Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-25 03:57 -0700
  Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me Newyana2 <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-04-25 08:27 -0400
  Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2024-04-25 14:46 +0100
    Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-28 07:26 -0700
      Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-04-28 13:58 -0500
        App Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-04-29 05:17 +0200
          Re: App Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2024-04-29 13:36 +0300
            Re: App Bertel Lund Hansen <gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> - 2024-04-29 12:50 +0200
          Re: App nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-04-29 13:45 +0200
            Re: App Bertel Lund Hansen <gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> - 2024-04-29 13:47 +0200
          Re: App Newyana2 <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-04-29 08:59 -0400
            Re: App "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-29 06:33 -0700
              Re: App Newyana2 <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-04-29 13:38 -0400
                Re: App Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2024-04-30 10:47 +1000
                Re: App Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-04-29 22:21 -0400
                Re: App Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2024-04-30 14:18 +1000
                Re: App Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2024-04-30 14:31 +1000
                Re: App Newyana2 <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-04-30 08:45 -0400
                Re: App Newyana2 <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-04-29 22:48 -0400
                Re: App Bertel Lund Hansen <gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> - 2024-04-30 09:32 +0200
                Re: App Newyana2 <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-04-30 09:28 -0400
                Re: App Bertel Lund Hansen <gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> - 2024-04-30 09:27 +0200
                Re: App Bertel Lund Hansen <gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> - 2024-04-30 11:06 +0200
              Re: App Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-05-04 07:01 +0200
                Re: App Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-05-04 02:11 -0400
                Re: App John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2024-05-04 10:28 +0100
                Re: App Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-05-04 10:43 -0400
                Re: App Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-04 14:51 +0000
                Re: App Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-05-04 18:56 +0200
                Re: App Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-05-04 19:25 -0400
                Re: App Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-05-05 14:02 -0500
                Re: App Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2024-05-05 13:59 +1000
                Re: App Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-05-06 05:56 +0200
                Re: App Bertel Lund Hansen <gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> - 2024-05-06 07:37 +0200
                Re: App Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2024-05-06 07:15 -0700
                Re: App lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2024-05-04 23:40 -0600
                Re: App Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2024-05-05 18:15 +1000
                Re: App lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2024-05-05 23:18 -0600
                Re: App nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-05-06 13:52 +0200
                Re: App Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-05-06 14:47 -0400
                Re: App Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2024-05-07 10:09 +1000
                Re: App Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2024-05-14 15:31 -0500
                Re: App lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2024-05-14 22:40 -0600
                Re: App lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2024-05-06 19:18 -0600
                Re: App Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-05-06 22:14 -0400
                Re: App nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-05-07 10:41 +0200
                Re: App Bertel Lund Hansen <gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> - 2024-05-05 11:28 +0200
                Re: App Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-05-06 06:02 +0200
                Re: App 0rby <graham@custompc.plus.com> - 2024-05-04 18:34 +0100
                Re: App 0rby <graham@custompc.plus.com> - 2024-05-04 18:46 +0100
            Re: App Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2024-04-30 10:48 +1000
            Re: App Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2024-05-05 23:40 +0300
          Re: App Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-04-29 17:05 -0400
            Re: App Bertel Lund Hansen <gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> - 2024-04-30 09:35 +0200
        Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-29 05:53 -0700
  Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-04-25 14:30 +0000
    Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-04-25 08:51 -0700
      Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-04-25 13:32 -0500
        Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-28 07:34 -0700
          Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-04-28 13:53 -0500
            Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-29 06:15 -0700
            Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-04-29 12:00 -0500
    Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-04-25 17:47 +0000
      Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-28 07:42 -0700
    Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-04-26 02:09 -0400
      Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-28 07:49 -0700
        Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-04-28 13:59 -0400
  Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2024-04-25 16:56 +0100
    Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-28 07:50 -0700
      Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-04-28 14:14 -0500
        Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-29 06:23 -0700
      Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-05-01 16:23 -0400
  Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-04-25 12:44 -0500
    Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-28 07:56 -0700
  Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-04-26 02:13 -0400
    Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-28 07:58 -0700
  Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2024-04-29 15:12 +0100

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