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Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable

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Hi, Michal,

Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> writes:

> On Wed 27-09-17 23:10:08, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 03:50:34PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> > On Wed 27-09-17 22:41:17, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 03:22:41PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> > [...]
>> > > > simply cannot disable swap readahead when page-cluster is 0?
>> > > 
>> > > That's was what I want really but Huang want to use two readahead
>> > > algorithms in parallel so he wanted to keep two separated disable
>> > > knobs.
>> > 
>> > If it breaks existing and documented behavior then it is a clear
>> > regression and it should be fixed. I do not see why this should be
>> > disputable at all.
>> 
>> Indeed but Huang doesn't think so. He has thought it's not a regression.
>> Frankly speaking, I'm really bored of discussing with it.
>> https://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=150526413319763&w=2
>
> Then send a patch explaining why you consider this a regression with
> some numbers backing it and I will happily ack it.

I still think there may be a performance regression for some users
because of the change of the algorithm and the knobs, and the
performance regression can be resolved via setting the new knob.  But I
don't think there will be a functionality regression.  Do you agree?

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

>> So I passed the decision to Andrew.
>> http://lkml.kernel.org/r/<20170913014019.GB29422@bbox>
>> 
>> The config option idea is compromise approach although I don't like it
>> and still believe it's simple clear *regression* so 0 page-cluster
>> should keep the swap readahead disabled.
>
> It is not a compromise. The regression is still there for many users
> potentially (just consider zram distribution kernel users...).

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Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 07:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 09:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 10:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 10:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 15:20 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 15:30 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 15:50 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 16:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 16:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 16:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable "Huang\, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com> - 2017-09-28 03:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-10-02 09:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> - 2017-10-02 22:50 +0200

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