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Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable

From Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable
Date 2017-09-27 09:50 +0200
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On Wed 27-09-17 14:04:01, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 03:21:29PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 21-09-17 09:33:10, Huang, Ying wrote:
> > > From: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
> > > 
> > > This patch adds a new Kconfig option VMA_SWAP_READAHEAD and wraps VMA
> > > based swap readahead code inside #ifdef CONFIG_VMA_SWAP_READAHEAD/#endif.
> > > This is more friendly for tiny kernels.
> > 
> > How (much)?
> > 
> > > And as pointed to by Minchan
> > > Kim, give people who want to disable the swap readahead an opportunity
> > > to notice the changes to the swap readahead algorithm and the
> > > corresponding knobs.
> > 
> > Why would anyone want that?
> > 
> > Please note that adding new config options make the already complicated
> > config space even more problematic so there should be a good reason to
> > add one. Please make sure your justification is clear on why this is
> > worth the future maintenance and configurability burden.
> 
> The problem is users have disabled swap readahead by echo 0 > /proc/sys/
> vm/page-cluster are regressed by this new interface /sys/kernel/mm/swap/
> vma_ra_max_order. Because for disabling readahead completely, they should
> disable vma_ra_max_order as well as page-cluster from now on.
> 
> So, goal of new config to notice new feature to admins so they can be aware
> of new konb vma_ra_max_order as well as page-cluster.
> I canont think other better idea to preventing such regression.
> 
> http://lkml.kernel.org/r/%3C20170913014019.GB29422@bbox%3E

So, how are you going to configure this when you do not know whether
zram will be used? In other words what should e.g. distribution set this
to?

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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[PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com> - 2017-09-21 03:40 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-09-25 07:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable "Huang\, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com> - 2017-09-25 08:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-09-25 08:20 +0200
        Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable "Huang\, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com> - 2017-09-25 08:30 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-09-25 08:40 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-09-26 15:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable "Huang\, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com> - 2017-09-27 03:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 07:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 09:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 10:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 10:40 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 15:20 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 15:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 15:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 16:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 16:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-09-27 16:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable "Huang\, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com> - 2017-09-28 03:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-10-02 09:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> - 2017-10-02 22:50 +0200

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