Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

From	Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group
Date	2017-12-03 13:30 +0100
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On 12/02/2017 01:37 PM, David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 02 Dec 2017 at 13:17:14 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 12/02/2017 12:02 PM, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 02, 2017 12:17:39 PM Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>> 6. *NOT* be a "smartphone".
>>>
>>> Well, I am curious about why you don't want it to be a smartphone,
>>> and whether doing something like removing the SIM from a cell phone
>>> (and possibly epoxying the socket) would meet your needs?
>>>
>>
>> You might say it's the 3 P's ;/
>> [ Philosophical Practicality Prudence ]
>>
>> Philosophical - application of Linux philosophy
>>  > As stated by McIlroy, and generally accepted throughout the Unix
>> community, Unix programs have always been expected to follow the
>> concept of DOTADIW, or "Do One Thing and Do It Well."
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy#Do_One_Thing_and_Do_It_Well
>>
>> Practicality - avoidance of Android
>> Most "smartphones" come only with Android which presumes someone who
>> has never met the user knows best what the user needs (let alone
>> wants) and then goes to great lengths to prevent the end user from
>> installing a suitable OS.
>>
>> Practicality - possible regulatory constraints
>> ~50 years ago I held a commercial operators license from the FCC and
>> later in RFI suppression and type acceptance (FCC & VDE). I've read
>> recent posts of a so called "SOS mode" active even when sim is
>> removed. I don't know how onerous compliance would be -- *NOT*
>> interested in wasting time and effort to pursue.
>>
>> P.S. I have been described as "PERSISTENT" <chuckle;>
>
> Consideration of smartphones seems to be going round in circles:
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/11/msg00266.html
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/11/msg00271.html
>
> So let me ask a slightly different question. Given
>
> 2. have a physical form factor similar to a "smartphone".

A package of 3x5 cards meets that specification <snicker>
However its computational functionality and data storage are rather 
limited ;/

> 6. *NOT* be a "smartphone".

At a first pass not be what FCC describes as an "intentional radiator".
Not sure how much that applies to WiFi or Bluetooth, neither are of 
particular interest to me.

>
> what would be the principal use of this device,

Anything a laptop might be used for.
*PLUS* ANYTHING where small size is beneficial.

> who would it be aimed at,

Anyone who wants the compute power of Raspberry Pi/Beaglebone/etc who 
wishes to avoid mechanics of DIY.

> and what would be the size of its market?

Probably less than world population.
I.E. who knows?

>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

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[OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-02 18:20 +0100
  Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-12-02 19:10 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-02 20:20 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-12-02 20:40 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-02 21:00 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-12-02 23:10 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-03 02:20 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 14:10 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 14:00 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-12-03 14:30 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 16:30 +0100
                Back to the question [Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 16:50 +0100
                Re: Back to the question [Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-12-03 17:20 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> - 2017-12-03 14:40 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 16:20 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 21:50 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-12-05 04:40 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 13:30 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-03 14:10 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 16:20 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-12-04 03:50 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-04 05:30 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-12-04 07:50 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-12-04 09:30 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-04 14:50 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-12-02 21:10 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 14:30 +0100
  Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-12-03 11:10 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 15:20 +0100
  Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-12-03 11:20 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 15:30 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-12-04 01:30 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-04 05:00 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-12-04 05:40 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-12-04 09:00 +0100
  Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-04 12:10 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-05 17:30 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-05 20:10 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-05 22:00 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-06 07:50 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-12-06 12:00 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-06 12:30 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-12-06 12:40 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-06 14:40 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-22 18:00 +0100

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