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Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

From David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group
Date 2017-12-02 20:40 +0100
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On Sat 02 Dec 2017 at 13:17:14 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 12/02/2017 12:02 PM, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> >On Saturday, December 02, 2017 12:17:39 PM Richard Owlett wrote:
> >>6. *NOT* be a "smartphone".
> >
> >Well, I am curious about why you don't want it to be a smartphone,
> >and whether doing something like removing the SIM from a cell phone
> >(and possibly epoxying the socket) would meet your needs?
> >
> 
> You might say it's the 3 P's ;/
> [ Philosophical Practicality Prudence ]
> 
> Philosophical - application of Linux philosophy
>  > As stated by McIlroy, and generally accepted throughout the Unix
> community, Unix programs have always been expected to follow the
> concept of DOTADIW, or "Do One Thing and Do It Well."
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy#Do_One_Thing_and_Do_It_Well
> 
> Practicality - avoidance of Android
> Most "smartphones" come only with Android which presumes someone who
> has never met the user knows best what the user needs (let alone
> wants) and then goes to great lengths to prevent the end user from
> installing a suitable OS.
> 
> Practicality - possible regulatory constraints
> ~50 years ago I held a commercial operators license from the FCC and
> later in RFI suppression and type acceptance (FCC & VDE). I've read
> recent posts of a so called "SOS mode" active even when sim is
> removed. I don't know how onerous compliance would be -- *NOT*
> interested in wasting time and effort to pursue.
> 
> P.S. I have been described as "PERSISTENT" <chuckle;>

Consideration of smartphones seems to be going round in circles:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/11/msg00266.html
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/11/msg00271.html

So let me ask a slightly different question. Given

2. have a physical form factor similar to a "smartphone".
6. *NOT* be a "smartphone".

what would be the principal use of this device, who would
it be aimed at, and what would be the size of its market?

Cheers,
David.

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[OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-02 18:20 +0100
  Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-12-02 19:10 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-02 20:20 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-12-02 20:40 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-02 21:00 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-12-02 23:10 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-03 02:20 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 14:10 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 14:00 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-12-03 14:30 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 16:30 +0100
                Back to the question [Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 16:50 +0100
                Re: Back to the question [Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-12-03 17:20 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> - 2017-12-03 14:40 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 16:20 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 21:50 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-12-05 04:40 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 13:30 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-03 14:10 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 16:20 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-12-04 03:50 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-04 05:30 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-12-04 07:50 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-12-04 09:30 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-04 14:50 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-12-02 21:10 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 14:30 +0100
  Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-12-03 11:10 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 15:20 +0100
  Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-12-03 11:20 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 15:30 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-12-04 01:30 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-04 05:00 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-12-04 05:40 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-12-04 09:00 +0100
  Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-04 12:10 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-05 17:30 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-05 20:10 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-05 22:00 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-06 07:50 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-12-06 12:00 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-06 12:30 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-12-06 12:40 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-06 14:40 +0100

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