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Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group

From Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group
Date 2017-12-03 16:20 +0100
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On 12/03/2017 07:35 AM, Tom Furie wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 06:57:30AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 12/02/2017 01:52 PM, John Hasler wrote:
>>> David Wright writes:
>>>> what would be the principal use of this device, who would it be aimed
>>>> at, and what would be the size of its market?
>>>
>>> I'd buy one were it cheap enough (it wouldn't be).
>>>
>>
>> I don't see why its price structure be more than a laptop or "smartphone".
>> It should be less than a "smartphone" offering similar compute capability.
>>
>> The per unit manufacturing costs should be lower - fewer parts, fewer
>> assembly steps.
>> There would be less ongoing engineering costs - e.g. when 3G/4G becomes
>> obsolete.
>> Product lifetime should be longer.
>
> It seems to me that you're looking for a tablet with optional keyboard
> attachment.

Yes. I would probably not purchase a keyboard and instead would use one 
of my multiple USB connected keyboards.

>
> If you want "off the shelf", the closest that immediately comes to
> mind is something like a Microsoft Surface or similar.

Quick web search doesn't indicate if any meet my requirements as a
handheld. Linux is reported to be installable - "secure boot" problems 
need further research.
> 2. have a physical form factor similar to a "smartphone".
>    [Latest releases tend to be uncomfortably large.
>     Maximum viable size 8" x 5".]
Thickness requirement is still vague.

>
> For the amount of "DIY" involved, a Raspberry Pi - the Model 3B comes
> with built in wifi - with touchscreen (available in several sizes) and
> wireless keyboard and mouse would seem to fit the bill. It will of
> course be bulkier, but I can't think of anything else appropriate.

It seems power hungry. I suspect a Pi Zero has required compute power.
I've not yet found a matrix of what Pi components can work together nor 
what Pi cases are available from a U.S. source.


>
> Cheers,
> Tom
>

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[OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-02 18:20 +0100
  Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-12-02 19:10 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-02 20:20 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-12-02 20:40 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-02 21:00 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-12-02 23:10 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-03 02:20 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 14:10 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 14:00 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-12-03 14:30 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 16:30 +0100
                Back to the question [Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 16:50 +0100
                Re: Back to the question [Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-12-03 17:20 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> - 2017-12-03 14:40 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 16:20 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 21:50 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-12-05 04:40 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 13:30 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-03 14:10 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 16:20 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-12-04 03:50 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-04 05:30 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-12-04 07:50 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-12-04 09:30 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-12-04 14:50 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-12-02 21:10 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 14:30 +0100
  Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-12-03 11:10 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 15:20 +0100
  Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-12-03 11:20 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-03 15:30 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-12-04 01:30 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-04 05:00 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-12-04 05:40 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-12-04 09:00 +0100
  Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-04 12:10 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-05 17:30 +0100
      Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-05 20:10 +0100
        Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-05 22:00 +0100
          Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-06 07:50 +0100
            Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-12-06 12:00 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-06 12:30 +0100
              Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-12-06 12:40 +0100
                Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-06 14:40 +0100
    Re: [OT] Relavant mailing list or USENET group Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-22 18:00 +0100

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