Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

From	Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?
Date	2017-07-20 04:10 +0200
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson
<field.engineer@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >>> Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week.  Can install
> >>> apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc.  I
> >>> find this unusual.  Did a mail list archive search for this, but
> >>> didn't find anything specific. Or did I miss the solution?
> >>>
> >>> My Test Setup:
> >>>
> >>> Stretch Stable 64-bit from net-install disk in Virtualbox 5.1 on a
> >>> Wheezy host.  Basic terminal install (no GUI), converted to
> >>> sysvinit (did not do anything to systemd files. Kept as
> >>> dependencies) and then added xorg, openbox window manager, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any feedback.
> >>>
> >>> B
> >>>
> >>
> >> dpkg -s unattended-upgrades
> > 
> > Not installed either by me or the installer
> > 
> >> If it is installed, it did your updates and security upgrades for
> >> you. If you do not like it and want to do manual updates/upgrades,
> >> do with root privs:
> > 
> > I have always done this manually since I first started using Debian
> > (Sarge).  And always will.  This is my personal machine.
> > 
> >> sed -i 's/1/0/g' /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades
> >>
> >> For further reading and understanding:
> >>
> >> https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades
> > 
> > Thanks for the reference.  I've been aware of this for a long time,
> > but chose not to use it.
> > 
> > My problem must be something else.
> 
> You also have packagekit and discover to deal with and who knows what 
> else. Stopping auto-install is not that difficult, but stopping 
> auto-update is a problem.

I think you've assumed some things incorrectly.  I did a basic terminal
only install with only basic system utilties, the last option on the
list.  No Desktop of any kind. No xserver.  Packagekit is not
installed.  Discover was as a dependency, but I didn't install it
explicitly. No auto-install or auto-update either. I converted to
sysvinit, but left systemd stuff as dependencies.  Later will install
xorg and openbox, etc. for my GUI. This is the same way I installed
Wheezy 5 years ago. And it works (and always has) fine.

FWIW, a few months ago, I installed Stretch RC2 the same way to test it
and everything worked including apt-get update, upgrade, etc.

So, something is wrong.  And I won't install it for real until I
discover what.

B

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Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 19:30 +0200
  Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 20:20 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 22:40 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 22:50 +0200
        Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 04:10 +0200
          Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 05:50 +0200
            Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 06:30 +0200
          Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 08:50 +0200
            Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 06:50 +0200
              Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 08:50 +0200
                Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 18:30 +0200
  Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-07-19 20:40 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 22:50 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-19 23:20 +0200
        Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 04:30 +0200
  Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-19 21:00 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 21:20 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-19 21:20 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-07-19 21:50 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-07-19 22:00 +0200
        Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-19 22:30 +0200
          Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-07-19 23:10 +0200
            Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-19 23:20 +0200
            Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-19 23:50 +0200
              Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-20 00:30 +0200
                Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-07-20 01:20 +0200
                Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-22 23:50 +0200
        Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2017-07-19 22:40 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-19 22:00 +0200
        Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-19 22:20 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 22:50 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-07-20 06:40 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-20 09:30 +0200
        Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?] Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-07-20 13:30 +0200
          Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-07-20 16:40 +0200
            Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?] Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-20 19:00 +0200
              Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?] Frank <zuiderduin@gmx.com> - 2017-07-20 20:20 +0200
                Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?] Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-20 21:50 +0200
                Re: False dichotomy [was: Apt vs apt-get] Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 23:00 +0200
                Re: False dichotomy [was: Apt vs apt-get] Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-21 01:00 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-07-21 00:00 +0200
        Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-21 06:50 +0200
          Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-07-21 21:10 +0200
  Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? davidson@freevolt.org - 2017-07-20 08:00 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 07:20 +0200

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