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Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

From David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?
Date 2017-07-21 21:10 +0200
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On Fri 21 Jul 2017 at 00:43:08 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote:
> Joe Pfeiffer composed on 2017-07-20 15:38 (UTC-0600):
> 
> > David Wright  wrote:
> 
> >> On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote:
> 
> >>> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get?
> 
> >> I did. Where does it say that?
> 
> > The closest thing to that statement I've encountered is in the Debian
> > Administrator's Handbook, "apt is a second command-line based front end
> > provided by APT which overcomes some design mistakes of apt-get."  It
> > doesn't quite say it's preferred, but it does say why the author of the
> > handbook thinks it's superior.
> 
> > https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.apt-get.html
> > section 6.2
> 
> The handbook paragraph following that quoted above includes this:
> 
> 	"The most recommended interface, apt,..."
> 
> It only says apt is the cmdline interface that followed apt-get, not when it
> followed, but I think "overcomes design mistakes of apt-get" is enough to
> justify saying that apt is generally preferred to apt-get.

In ยง6,2 I actually _can't_ see where the author says it's superior.
I _can_ see that a substitution s/apt-get/apt/ has been made in
the newer version of the handbook (actually published just after
jessie was released) and in stretch's Installation Guide.

For a gloss on the "design mistakes" statement, see
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=818560
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/270511/how-is-apt-the-new-and-improved-apt-get

Cheers,
David.

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Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 19:30 +0200
  Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 20:20 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 22:40 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 22:50 +0200
        Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 04:10 +0200
          Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 05:50 +0200
            Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 06:30 +0200
          Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 08:50 +0200
            Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 06:50 +0200
              Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 08:50 +0200
                Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 18:30 +0200
  Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-07-19 20:40 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 22:50 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-19 23:20 +0200
        Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 04:30 +0200
  Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-19 21:00 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 21:20 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-19 21:20 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-07-19 21:50 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-07-19 22:00 +0200
        Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-19 22:30 +0200
          Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-07-19 23:10 +0200
            Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-19 23:20 +0200
            Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-19 23:50 +0200
              Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-20 00:30 +0200
                Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-07-20 01:20 +0200
                Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-22 23:50 +0200
        Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2017-07-19 22:40 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-19 22:00 +0200
        Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-19 22:20 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 22:50 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-07-20 06:40 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-20 09:30 +0200
        Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?] Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-07-20 13:30 +0200
          Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-07-20 16:40 +0200
            Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?] Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-20 19:00 +0200
              Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?] Frank <zuiderduin@gmx.com> - 2017-07-20 20:20 +0200
                Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?] Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-20 21:50 +0200
                Re: False dichotomy [was: Apt vs apt-get] Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 23:00 +0200
                Re: False dichotomy [was: Apt vs apt-get] Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-21 01:00 +0200
      Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-07-21 00:00 +0200
        Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-21 06:50 +0200
          Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-07-21 21:10 +0200
  Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? davidson@freevolt.org - 2017-07-20 08:00 +0200
    Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 07:20 +0200

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