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| From | Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> |
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| Newsgroups | ger.ct |
| Subject | Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy |
| Date | 2022-10-07 16:35 +0200 |
| Organization | Immer wieder wächst das Gras. |
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Am 07.10.2022 um 14:13 schrieb Stefan Froehlich:
> On Fri, 07 Oct 2022 11:45:26 Peter Veith wrote:
>> Was?
>
> ...sich nicht vom russischen Gas abhängig gemacht (btw. noch viel
> stärker als Deutschland). Mangels ähnlich günstiger Alternativen
> hätte das freilich höhere Preise zur Folge gehabt, aber: So what?
Welcher Idiot kauft teuer beim US-Amerikaner, wenn es eine preiswerte
Alternative vor Ort gibt?! Zumal sich der Anbieter stets - selbst in
finstersten Krisen - als zuverlässiger Lieferant über Jahrzehnte
bewiesen hat.
Auch nun brachte der Raub des russischen Vermögens und von deren
Einnahmen (wording "eingefroren") sowie die Selbstsanktionen der EU uns
in Nöte, wissennoch.
So, und nun haben "unbekannte" Täter den letzten Ausweg gesprengt, wie
weiland Cortez mit Verbrennen der Schiffe seinen Untertanten jeden
Rückzugsweg verbaute. Gut, das mit dem Aufhängen erfolgte noch nicht.
> Der Energieverbrauch pro Kopf hat sich hierzulande seit den 1960ern
> vervierfacht, und alle tun so, als wäre das ein unumstößliches
> Naturgesetz gewesen.
Nö, haben denkende Menschen nicht getan, sondern von Politik und
Wirtschaft ein Umdenken gefordert ... sonst drohe (Öko-) Diktatur, huuups.
>>> Ansonsten: Was spricht dagegen, Energie zu sparen?
>
>> Nichts, meine Rede. ABER bitte nicht am Ende der "Nahrungskette",
>> end-of-pipe, sondern bei der Wirtschaft / Produktion beginnend und
>> sanft über Ökobilanzen und Einbeziehung der Umweltkosten in die
>> Preisgestaltung marktwirtschaftlich umgesetzt.
>
> Du beliebst zu scherzen, oder?
Nein, in den 1980ern en vogue, als Abzocker "Öko-Steuer" noch im RL.
>>> wäre da nicht die überaus schieflastige Vermögensverteilung, dank
>>> derer die einen schon frieren, während die anderen immer noch auf
>>> Kunstschnee Schifahren.
>
>> Und Du meinst, das wird anders?
>
> Nein, natürlich nicht. Das war kein aus der Luft gegriffenes
> Beispiel, sondern das Umweltministerium *hat* die Bevölkerung zur
> Einsparung von 15% Energie aufgerufen, während vorige Woche in Tirol
> die Schneekanonen angeworfen wurden ("kritische Infrastruktur" hat
> die ein ÖVP-Funktionär voriges Monat genannt).
Wie gesagt, wenn jemand fähig ist, den Preis zu zahlen, dann ist das
Kapitalismus der funktioniert. Nicht funktionieren staatliche Eingriffe,
wie Preisdeckel, dann ist die Energie ratz, fatz alle.
Veith
--
"Es ist nicht Ziel des Lebens, auf der Seite der Mehrheit zu stehen,
sondern die Flucht davor, sich bei den Irren wiederzufinden." (M. Aurel)
http://ddr-luftwaffe.blogspot.com
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Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-07 12:13 +0000
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Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-07 16:35 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:22 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 11:38 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 11:46 +0200
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Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:18 -0700
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Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-08 11:13 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-07 16:52 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 14:14 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:23 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-07 12:21 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 12:54 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 16:03 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 16:14 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 15:47 +0000
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 15:47 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 18:18 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-07 18:34 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 16:38 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-07 16:43 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 17:04 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-07 17:04 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 17:30 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-07 17:30 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-08 07:43 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 08:25 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:39 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 10:27 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 11:07 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 11:52 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 12:11 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 13:29 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 13:27 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 11:46 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Georg Gruber <g.gruber_hauwech@gmx.net> - 2022-10-08 14:56 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 19:16 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Georg Gruber <g.gruber_hauwech@gmx.net> - 2022-10-09 11:43 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:19 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-13 03:38 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:58 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-13 05:11 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 13:34 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-13 17:03 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 15:57 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-13 18:23 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-14 06:47 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-13 23:35 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-14 05:06 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-13 19:50 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-14 08:38 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-14 08:47 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-14 09:16 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-14 09:33 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-14 14:22 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-13 17:18 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 15:53 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-13 18:49 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-14 07:12 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-14 14:22 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-13 19:50 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-08 13:47 +0000
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 16:22 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-08 14:53 +0000
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 17:12 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-08 15:27 +0000
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-08 08:46 -0700
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 18:39 +0000
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 22:58 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 19:00 +0000
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 01:28 -0700
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-08 08:19 -0700
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 18:02 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 15:35 -0700
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-09 00:59 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-09 01:05 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 16:08 -0700
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-09 01:16 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-09 08:23 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-09 11:14 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-09 12:02 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-09 16:52 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 15:30 -0700
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 03:05 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 07:35 +0000
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 02:20 -0700
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-08 07:23 -0700
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 18:08 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 15:28 -0700
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 00:46 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 07:37 +0000
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-09 19:59 +0200
Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-09 20:24 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 10:25 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 11:13 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-08 02:24 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 11:57 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 12:05 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 12:10 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 10:20 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 11:31 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 12:01 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 07:19 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:05 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-13 03:09 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:26 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 16:32 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-07 21:49 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 12:39 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 03:42 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-07 14:15 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:27 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-03 14:40 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:32 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 13:23 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-08 21:25 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 07:40 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 23:30 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-10 06:38 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-10 05:21 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Siegfried Blos <usenet@siegfried-blos.de> - 2022-11-07 22:30 +0100
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-10 11:03 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 13:31 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 14:06 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:11 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-07 21:39 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:34 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 19:19 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 21:32 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-08 21:41 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 22:00 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 22:42 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-09 19:44 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-10 00:58 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 20:44 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-09 08:41 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-10 06:43 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-10 08:52 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-10 09:12 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-10 09:28 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-10 09:42 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-10 09:54 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-10 00:40 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-10 10:03 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 22:36 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 20:50 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 02:14 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 14:23 +0000
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 15:41 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 03:29 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-07 14:20 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:30 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-03 14:43 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:30 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-08 21:20 +0200
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 23:38 -0700
Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-07 13:05 +0100
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