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Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy

From "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org>
Newsgroups ger.ct
Subject Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy
Date 2022-10-07 11:46 +0200
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Am 07.10.22 um 11:21 schrieb Stefan Froehlich:
> On Fri, 07 Oct 2022 11:14:01 Dr. Joachim Neudert wrote:
>> ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use
>> less energy.
>>
>> Gefällt mir.
> 
> Ja, das glaube ich Dir.
> 
>> Ich persönlich möchte es mir auch verbitten, daß die Leute die 30
>> Jahre alles auf einen einzigen Gaslieferanten und eine einzige
>> Rohrleitung von ihm gesetzt haben, [...] mir nun Tipps geben wie
>> ich nicht erfriere und weiter etwas Licht habe.
> 
> Waren es denn diejenigen? Bei uns badet das gerade eine grüne
> Umweltministerin aus, deren Vorgänger als Opposition noch genau vor
> diesem Problem gewarnt haben. Hätte man halt früher...
> 
> Ansonsten: Was spricht dagegen, Energie zu sparen?


Oh, Du verstehst flasch.
Natürlich spare ich gern Energie ein.
Seit 2018 hat mein Auto erst nur mehr  3,4 l Super/100 km verbraucht, 
seit 2021 das eine und seit 2022 das andere gar keines mehr, nur noch 
grünen Ökostrom aus Wind, Wasser, Fotovoltaik. Und wo es geht: Fahrrad 
statt PKW.
Alle Beleuchtungstechnik auf LED umgestellt. Statt Standy-by 
Stromtrennung. Macs statt Wintel-Heizgeräte. Ein Mac Studio braucht 
maximal 120W. 1/3 soviel wie eine Nvidia GraKa.

Aber es muß mir nun keiner von den Polit-Pharisäern jetzt erklären, was 
ich zu tun habe und wie oft ich noch Duschen darf und wie warm es in der 
Praxis noch sein darf.

Besten Dank auch für alle Energiespartipps. Beim ersten Mal kann man sie 
umsetzen, beim Autofahren oder bei der Hausbeleuchtung. In der 
Reiteration 2, 3, 4 und 5 kommt aber kein zusätzlicher sparender Effekt 
mehr zu stande, egal wie oft man den Tipp noch gibt.

Und wie Du siehst ist mir klar, daß bei uns nicht der Herr Habeck Schuld 
hat. Alle die in den letzten 35 Jahren mal an der Regierung waren, sind 
ursächlich beteiligt und verantwortlich. Keine einzige Partei sah ein 
Problem darin alles auf Gas aus Nordstream 1 zu setzen: CDU, CSU, FDP, 
Grüne, SPD...


> Selbst ohne
> Abhängigkeit von Russland als Gaslieferanten und/oder ohne den Krieg
> in der Ukraine wäre das eine überaus sinnvolle Idee. Freilich, man
> könnte das auch ganz brutal über den Preis regelln, wäre da nicht
> die überaus schieflastige Vermögensverteilung, dank derer die einen
> schon frieren, während die anderen immer noch auf Kunstschnee
> Schifahren.
> 
> Dass bei uns genau das passiert, nämlich in den Bergen bereits die
> Schneekanonen laufen noch bevor für die anderen die Heizsaison
> ausfällt, wird in den nächsten paar Monaten noch für gewaltigen
> Unmut sorgen.

Schau, unser (D) Wirtschaftsmodell baut darauf Autos herzustellen, und 
noch paar andere Erfindungen bereits aus dem 19. Jahrhundert. Leider 
hatten wir noch keine bessere Idee, das iPhone wurde in Kalifornien 
erfunden und gebaut wird es in China und Vietnam.
Euer Modell beruht auf Tourismus, Bergen, im Winter darauf Ski fahren. 
Auch wenn es dämlich klingen mag: es ist für tu felix Austria wohl 
tatsächlich systemrelevant, so wie für uns diese komischen Autos...


-- 
Bitt um Vrzihung, di Tast " " klmmt manchmal...

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‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 11:14 +0200
  Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-07 09:21 +0000
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 11:42 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-07 12:08 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 14:21 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 11:36 +0000
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-08 15:40 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:01 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-13 12:11 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:25 +0000
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-07 21:40 +0200
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-07 02:45 -0700
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-07 12:13 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-07 14:44 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-10-07 21:58 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-07 22:14 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 11:43 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-07 16:35 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:22 -0700
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 11:38 +0000
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 11:46 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 03:31 -0700
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 13:15 +0200
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 04:23 -0700
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-07 04:33 -0700
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 04:53 -0700
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-07 14:11 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:18 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-07 14:37 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-08 11:13 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-07 16:52 +0200
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 14:14 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:23 -0700
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-07 12:21 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 12:54 +0000
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 16:03 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 16:14 +0200
              Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 15:47 +0000
              Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 15:47 +0000
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 18:18 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-07 18:34 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 16:38 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-07 16:43 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 17:04 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-07 17:04 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 17:30 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-07 17:30 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-08 07:43 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 08:25 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:39 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 10:27 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 11:07 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 11:52 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 12:11 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 13:29 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 13:27 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 11:46 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Georg Gruber <g.gruber_hauwech@gmx.net> - 2022-10-08 14:56 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 19:16 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Georg Gruber <g.gruber_hauwech@gmx.net> - 2022-10-09 11:43 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:19 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-13 03:38 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:58 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-13 05:11 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 13:34 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-13 17:03 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 15:57 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-13 18:23 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-14 06:47 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-13 23:35 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-14 05:06 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-13 19:50 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-14 08:38 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-14 08:47 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-14 09:16 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-14 09:33 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-14 14:22 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-13 17:18 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 15:53 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-13 18:49 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-14 07:12 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-14 14:22 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-13 19:50 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-08 13:47 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 16:22 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-08 14:53 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 17:12 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-08 15:27 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-08 08:46 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 18:39 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 22:58 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 19:00 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 01:28 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-08 08:19 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 18:02 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 15:35 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-09 00:59 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-09 01:05 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 16:08 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-09 01:16 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-09 08:23 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-09 11:14 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-09 12:02 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-09 16:52 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 15:30 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 03:05 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 07:35 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 02:20 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-08 07:23 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 18:08 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 15:28 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 00:46 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 07:37 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-09 19:59 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-09 20:24 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 10:25 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 11:13 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-08 02:24 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 11:57 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 12:05 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 12:10 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 10:20 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 11:31 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 12:01 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 07:19 -0700
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:05 +0000
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-13 03:09 -0700
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:26 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 16:32 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-07 21:49 +0200
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 12:39 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 03:42 -0700
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-07 14:15 +0200
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:27 -0700
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-03 14:40 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:32 -0700
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 13:23 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-08 21:25 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 07:40 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 23:30 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-10 06:38 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-10 05:21 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Siegfried Blos <usenet@siegfried-blos.de> - 2022-11-07 22:30 +0100
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-10 11:03 +0200
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 13:31 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 14:06 +0200
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:11 -0700
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-07 21:39 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:34 -0700
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 19:19 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 21:32 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-08 21:41 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 22:00 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 22:42 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-09 19:44 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-10 00:58 -0700
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 20:44 +0000
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-09 08:41 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-10 06:43 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-10 08:52 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-10 09:12 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-10 09:28 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-10 09:42 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-10 09:54 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-10 00:40 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-10 10:03 +0200
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 22:36 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 20:50 +0000
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 02:14 -0700
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 14:23 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 15:41 -0700
  Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 03:29 -0700
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-07 14:20 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:30 -0700
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-03 14:43 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:30 -0700
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-08 21:20 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 23:38 -0700
  Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-07 13:05 +0100

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