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Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy

From Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org>
Newsgroups ger.ct
Subject Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy
Date 2022-10-07 12:54 +0000
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Stefan Froehlich 
>>> Ja, das glaube ich Dir.

>> Seit 2018 hat mein Auto [...] mein Rechner [...]
> 
> Da liegt ja bereits das Problem. "Sparen auf hohem Niveau" könnte
> man es nennen, und im Grund genommen tust Du das doch auch nur, weil
> die neuen Dinge sehr exklusive Spielzeuge sind. Oder?

Oh, dass mir die Dinge Spaß machen habe ich doch nie verhehlt?
Dual-use oder Win-Win Situation nennt man das glaube ich. 

Aber an dem Punkt stellt sich bei vielen wohl ein Unbehagen ein: das ist
dieses pseudoreligiöse Verhalten, von dem ich diese Woche sprach, dass es
ein menschliches Bedürfnis gibt, sich schuldig zu fühlen und ein Bedürfnis,
schmerzhafte Busse zu tun. 


Sorry, dieses Schuldbedürfnis, das früher von der Religion und heute vom
Klimaschutz und seinen NGO Organisationen befriedigt wird, geht mir ab. Ich
lebe gerne, es macht mir ausgesprochen Spaß, ich tue gerne Gutes und rede
auch gerne  darüber. 

Gruß 

Joachim 


-- 
please forgive my iPhone typos

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‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 11:14 +0200
  Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-07 09:21 +0000
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 11:42 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-07 12:08 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 14:21 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 11:36 +0000
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-08 15:40 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:01 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-13 12:11 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:25 +0000
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-07 21:40 +0200
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-07 02:45 -0700
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-07 12:13 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-07 14:44 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-10-07 21:58 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-07 22:14 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 11:43 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-07 16:35 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:22 -0700
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 11:38 +0000
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 11:46 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 03:31 -0700
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 13:15 +0200
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 04:23 -0700
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-07 04:33 -0700
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 04:53 -0700
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-07 14:11 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:18 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-07 14:37 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-08 11:13 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-07 16:52 +0200
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 14:14 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:23 -0700
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-07 12:21 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 12:54 +0000
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 16:03 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 16:14 +0200
              Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 15:47 +0000
              Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 15:47 +0000
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 18:18 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-07 18:34 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 16:38 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-07 16:43 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 17:04 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-07 17:04 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 17:30 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-07 17:30 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-08 07:43 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 08:25 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:39 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 10:27 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 11:07 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 11:52 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 12:11 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 13:29 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 13:27 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 11:46 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Georg Gruber <g.gruber_hauwech@gmx.net> - 2022-10-08 14:56 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 19:16 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Georg Gruber <g.gruber_hauwech@gmx.net> - 2022-10-09 11:43 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:19 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-13 03:38 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:58 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-13 05:11 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 13:34 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-13 17:03 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 15:57 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-13 18:23 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-14 06:47 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-13 23:35 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-14 05:06 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-13 19:50 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-14 08:38 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-14 08:47 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-14 09:16 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-14 09:33 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-14 14:22 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-13 17:18 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 15:53 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-13 18:49 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-14 07:12 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-14 14:22 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-13 19:50 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-08 13:47 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 16:22 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-08 14:53 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 17:12 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-08 15:27 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-08 08:46 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 18:39 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 22:58 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 19:00 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 01:28 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-08 08:19 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 18:02 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 15:35 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-09 00:59 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-09 01:05 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 16:08 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-09 01:16 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-09 08:23 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-09 11:14 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-09 12:02 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-09 16:52 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 15:30 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 03:05 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 07:35 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 02:20 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-08 07:23 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 18:08 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 15:28 -0700
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 00:46 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 07:37 +0000
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-09 19:59 +0200
                Re: Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-09 20:24 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 10:25 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 11:13 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-08 02:24 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 11:57 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 12:05 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 12:10 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 10:20 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 11:31 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-08 12:01 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 07:19 -0700
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:05 +0000
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-13 03:09 -0700
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-13 10:26 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 16:32 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-07 21:49 +0200
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-07 12:39 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 03:42 -0700
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-07 14:15 +0200
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:27 -0700
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-03 14:40 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:32 -0700
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 13:23 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-08 21:25 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 07:40 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 23:30 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-10 06:38 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-10 05:21 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Siegfried Blos <usenet@siegfried-blos.de> - 2022-11-07 22:30 +0100
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-10 11:03 +0200
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2022-10-07 13:31 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-07 14:06 +0200
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:11 -0700
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-07 21:39 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:34 -0700
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 19:19 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 21:32 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-08 21:41 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-08 22:00 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 22:42 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2022-10-09 19:11 +0200
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-10-09 19:44 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-10-10 00:58 -0700
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 20:44 +0000
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-09 08:41 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-10 06:43 +0000
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-10 08:52 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-10 09:12 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-10 09:28 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-10 09:42 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-10 09:54 +0200
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-10 00:40 -0700
                Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-10 10:03 +0200
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Hans <Hans@enosta.at> - 2022-10-08 22:36 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-08 20:50 +0000
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 02:14 -0700
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-09 14:23 +0000
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-08 15:41 -0700
  Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 03:29 -0700
    Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-07 14:20 +0200
      Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 05:30 -0700
        Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-03 14:43 +0200
          Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-07 23:30 -0700
            Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-08 21:20 +0200
              Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-09 23:38 -0700
  Re: ‘Not a nanny state’: Minister says Britons will not be told to use less energy Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-07 13:05 +0100

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