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Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone?

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On Tue 01 Nov 2016 at 14:56:04 +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Tuesday 01 November 2016 10:30:54 Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 31 Oct 2016 at 23:38:36 +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Monday 31 October 2016 20:34:32 Brian wrote:
> > > > I _do_
> > > >
> > > > > get offered the chance to switch landscape to portrait.
> > > >
> > > > You final sentence is what interests me.
> > > >
> > > > What would expect to happen if you chose "portrait" over "landscape"?
> > > >
> > > > Bear in mind most printers feed paper in short-edge first.
> > >
> > > Portrait is the default.  If I do not ask it to turn a landscape image
> > > round, a high percentage of it will be outside the printing area and I
> > > would have tramlines at the top and bottom of the page.
> > >
> > > Put a landscape image over the top of a portrait oriented sheet of paper
> > > and you'll see what I mean.
> >
> > I understand what you mean. If we are still talking in the context of
> > Evince, the "Landscape" and "Portrait" options are handled by Cairo, not
> > CUPS. If you select "Landscape", Cairo rotates *every" page in the PDF
> > by 90 degrees if the page width is *less* than the height. If you had a
> > 842x595 sized pages they would not be rotated. Effectively, the option
> > does nothing. Or rather - it doesn't do what you think it does.
> >
> > But (you say). the printout is OK. That's because you have the "Auto
> > Rotate and Centre" option ticked. Nothing to do with "Landscape"
> > selected.
> >
> > Even if you forgot to tick "Auto Rotate and Centre" and sent a 842x595
> > page to the printer it will still be printed correctly because the
> > pdftopdf filter of cups-filters automatically rotates landscape pages by
> > 90 degrees before printing.
> 
> It must be my printer that is doing it then.  I agree that if the
> image will fit I am asked nothing.  But if I have a landscape A4 image
> I am asked if I want it rotated to portrait.

It would be highly unusual for your printer itself to do rotation of a
page sent to it. I've only ever seen it being done by the sending
application or by CUPS/cups-filters. If you are being asked then that
would surely be a question from the sending software. With Jessie it
would be a redundant question because pdftopdf will automatically rotate
it anyway.

> My current Evince has gone mad anyway and I have not yet battled it.
> I am just using kpdf-trinity most of the time.  I rarely need to do
> more to a pdf than read it.  I can't check what the default ticks in
> Evince are because I can't currently get at any of the settings.  I
> have altered nothing in it.  I can't get at it!!

I'm unfamiliar with kpdf but autorotation should happen if the CUPS
version is 1.7. A solution to your Evince problem could be purging and
reinstalling it.

-- 
Brian.

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Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? brian <brian@meadows.pair.com> - 2016-10-30 17:20 +0100
  Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-10-30 17:40 +0100
  Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 17:40 +0100
  Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-30 17:50 +0100
    Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? brian <brian@meadows.pair.com> - 2016-10-30 18:00 +0100
      Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-10-30 21:10 +0100
  Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2016-10-30 18:00 +0100
  Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2016-10-30 21:10 +0100
    Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? maderios <maderios@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 10:20 +0100
      Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 12:10 +0100
        Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2016-10-31 13:00 +0100
          Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 13:40 +0100
            Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? maderios <maderios@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 14:00 +0100
              Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-31 15:30 +0100
                Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 15:40 +0100
              Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 15:40 +0100
                Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-31 21:40 +0100
                Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 00:40 +0100
                Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-01 11:40 +0100
                Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 16:00 +0100
                Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-01 16:30 +0100

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