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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: Who Knew ? |
| Date | 2021-11-03 07:02 -0700 |
| Organization | dis-organization |
| Message-ID | <slu4pe$8vj$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (13 earlier) <slnrc4$scc$1@dont-email.me> <87mtmn7ohj.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> <VO6dnTWUCIlQJx38nZ2dnUU7-I1QAAAA@earthlink.com> <slqgup$oql$1@dont-email.me> <dpednXa_tOAXgB_8nZ2dnUU7-cvNnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
On 11/2/21 22:26, 1p166 wrote:
>>
>> Well I did bookkeeping and more on the Amiga
>> from the A1000 to the 2000b and wasted a lot of money
>> on them. But they were the best of the time which
>> passed about 1995 when the Windows got useful.
>
> IMHO, the Amigas were "gimmicks" to keep up the
> Commodore stock prices so the executives could
> plunder the company. Nothing Amiga could do that
> IBM or Apple couldn't -or couldn't soon- exceed
> and the bosses knew it.
Every hear of the VideoToaster. Originally an Amiga
2000 Zorro card. Later the company building it stripped
of the Amiga id from the boxes one on the very largest
boxes that was not a tower, then they added their card
and sold it to the TV broadcast station of the time for
subtitling and other functions. Used to see occasionally
the TV screen vanish with instructions to insert the
Kickstart disk or similar.
>
> Goddamned "Guru Meditations" ... they quickly
> forced me in a given direction. Given Apples
> "closed box" philosophy I think I chose correctly.
>
>> The IBM PC had is own problems and eventually
>> failed due to faster cheaper clones.
>
> A *business* failure, not a *technical* failure.
> As I said, I put my meager paycheck into a CLONE.
>
>> CBM tried to
>> build its own PC line but the people in charge were
>> not computer users nor knew what they were about.
>> Finally a debtor took over the company and used it
>> as a Cash Cow and milked it dry and right into bankruptcy.
>> The Amiga IP was up for grabs and the right folks
>> did not get it.
>
> CBM was doomed. There could only be two "sides".
> The big people knew this, and thus took the money
> and ran.
>
>>>
>>> The native 550 graphics were superior,
>>> but I badly needed full IBM-CGA compatibility and
>>> you had to buy a separate board and do some tricky
>>> jumper-wire work to get that. Still a great unit,
>>> and about a third the price of IBM. I might still
>>> have it somewhere, under the pile-o-junk.
>>>
>>> Anyway, the IBM clones now dominate. A few years
>>> back DeGaulle airport, Paris, was paralyzed because
>>> it's system for dealing with taxi-way routing went
>>> down. Turned out it was running on a PC clone and
>>> WINDOWS 3.11 for DECADES. Hey, if it ain't broke ...
>>
>> If it ain't broke this week wait for the updates
>> to take it down.
>
> Heh heh heh ... KNOW what you mean ! :-)
>
>> An important computer with traffic
>> control should have been better maintained.
>
> But it didn't NEED to be "maintained". It was
> perfect as it was. The problem wasn't software,
> the mainboard developed a fault. FAIR chance,
> though I'm not 100% sure, they just moved the
> same app to a slightly newer motherboard -
> a Core-2-Quad or something that could still
> run 8/16 code. A VM could also do it. I have
> CP/M-86 running in a VM - AND a good 'C'
> compiler, for fun.
>
>> Not clones anymore, x86 computers dominate and
>> what do you run Linux on anyway. Some builders make
>> them reliable machines.
>
> Almost all of the clones are good machines. I prefer
> ASUS boards these days. Their "B" series are good
> solid hardware. Their "ROG-STRIX" are maybe even
> better, but a tad more expensive. GOTTA turn off
> all those blinky LEDS though !
>
>>> Always wanted a SAGE computer. Looked like a PC box
>>> but it had 68000 series chips and some kind of
>>> XENIX-related and similar operating systems. Alas,
>>> a small maker, expensive, low-volume, pretty quickly
>>> went under. Too bad. Those WERE meant as "small
>>> business" boxes. Think you can still buy them
>>> on E-Bay, but early BAD experiences with E-Bay
>>> and Musks PayPal put me off of them. However I
>>> have seen working MicroVAX systems for sale there,
>>> they were VERY good systems and the OS was well
>>> ahead of its time, meant for medium-scale orgs
>>> and businesses. Still have the VMS manual, four
>>> inches thick, thin paper, smallish type. ONE day ...
>>
>> The Sage was pretty and even more expensive than the
>> Amiga. I looked and looked but never got one.
>
> I lusted ... but my paycheck was too small at
> the time. I loved the 68k, but also wanted a
> more biz/development OS environment. SAGE had
> that.
>
> Now I have a bigger paycheck - but SAGE is gone.
> Fortunately Linus stepped in - and some the
> BSDs are good too.
>
> Got a bad shock today trying to upgrade my Buster
> to Bullseye ... the apt full-upgrade hit an error
> halfway through and trashed it. Cannot find any
> option that really says "ignore ALL errors and
> keep going". Fortunately I'd used gparted to
> make a full copy of my existing system. Alas
> my Buster is chock-FULL of add-on software
> that was meticulously added and tweaked. Really
> REALLY don't want to start all over again.
> Winders really IS better in this respect, but
> maybe ONLY that respect.
I will say only that I am sorry to hear of your
problems with Debian upgrades
There is PCLinuxOS 64 a rolling release with very
good support through an active forum at:
<https://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php>
My Dell Latitudes 6520, 6540 and 7450 have
not done much complaining on the PCLinux diet.
bliss-“Nearly any fool can use a GNU/Linux computer. Many do.”
After all here I am...
--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com
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