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Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account

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On 2025-03-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-03-29 7:42 a.m., Borax Man wrote:
>> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
>> On 2025-03-29, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I really love how *this* [Microsoft requiring signing in to an online account, to log into Windows 11] is the deal-breaker, having to sign in to an
>>>>> online account, OMFG what a travesty, never mind the Copilot+
>>>>> bullshit, never mind the ever-increasing Windows bloat, never mind
>>>>> that your shiny new Win11 box will be outdated in four years' time.
>>>>> Jesus Christ, people, get with Linux, before you just sell your
>>>>> computing soul to M$.
>>>>
>>>> Its probably just the straw that is breaking the camels back.  I was
>>>> helping someone install Linux, and he was not wanting CoPilot and
>>>> privacy intrusions and the like.  But an online account, that is a very
>>>> clear indication that your computer is not yours anymore.  The rest of
>>>> what you mentioned is bloatware, which was a "Feature" of Windows
>>>> systems for years.  Somewhat mandatory online accounts are a new
>>>> paradigm though, which is why it stands out.
>>>>
>>>> The fact is, while it is possible to skirt around the creation of an
>>>> online account, it is a REAL pain to do so.  Quite difficult.
>>>
>>>
>>> I wanted to use my M$ account to log in to Winblows when I built this
>>> PC.  It was a feature.  Copilot, though, later on, was a piece of
>>> utter garbage*, and the bloat of 23H2 was already more than I wanted
>>> to bear.
>>>
>>> * I do use Copilot as a Web app in Linux, though, it's cute.
>>>
>> 
>> What advantages does the MS account offer?  I have one for email, but
>> thats a hold-over from the old hotmail days.  In fact, I used Hotmail
>> when it was HoTMaiL, before MS bought it.
>
> 1) Synchronization of content saved to OneDrive across all devices.
> 2) (Theoretically) unlimited storage for e-mail.
> 3) Synchronization of your calendar across every device connected 
> through your Microsoft account.
> 4) Free content creation (fifteen images a day) on Microsoft Designer.
> 5) Free use of basic Microsoft Office applications on office.com.
>
> I'm sure there are more, but those are the ones that come to mind right now.
>

These may be useful, but I don't see why one would need to use an
account to INSTALL Windows.  If one wants to use these features, simply
enable them in Windows, if not, don't sign up.  IT could even be an
installation open, asking the user whether they want to sign up for
these features.  But making it difficult to sign up seems to be the thin
edge of the "OS as a service" future MS may be trying to push through.

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Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-28 15:53 -0400
  Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 16:03 -0400
  Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-03-28 20:37 +0000
    Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 16:47 -0400
      Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-29 00:47 +0000
        Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 21:32 -0400
          Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-29 11:42 +0000
            Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-29 08:06 -0400
              Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-29 23:47 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-30 07:14 -0400
                Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-01 10:00 +0000
            Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 13:15 -0400
    Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 06:14 +0000
      Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-29 15:13 +0000
        Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-29 23:49 +0000
          Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-30 02:31 +0000
            Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-30 06:51 +0000
          Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-30 07:15 -0400
  Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 06:12 +0000
    Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-29 07:54 -0400
      Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-30 07:00 +0000
        Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-30 07:22 -0400
          Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 06:10 +0000
            Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-31 09:17 -0400
              Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-01 05:38 +0000

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