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Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account

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On 2025-03-29 7:47 p.m., Borax Man wrote:
> On 2025-03-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-03-29 7:42 a.m., Borax Man wrote:
>>> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
>>> On 2025-03-29, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I really love how *this* [Microsoft requiring signing in to an online account, to log into Windows 11] is the deal-breaker, having to sign in to an
>>>>>> online account, OMFG what a travesty, never mind the Copilot+
>>>>>> bullshit, never mind the ever-increasing Windows bloat, never mind
>>>>>> that your shiny new Win11 box will be outdated in four years' time.
>>>>>> Jesus Christ, people, get with Linux, before you just sell your
>>>>>> computing soul to M$.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its probably just the straw that is breaking the camels back.  I was
>>>>> helping someone install Linux, and he was not wanting CoPilot and
>>>>> privacy intrusions and the like.  But an online account, that is a very
>>>>> clear indication that your computer is not yours anymore.  The rest of
>>>>> what you mentioned is bloatware, which was a "Feature" of Windows
>>>>> systems for years.  Somewhat mandatory online accounts are a new
>>>>> paradigm though, which is why it stands out.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fact is, while it is possible to skirt around the creation of an
>>>>> online account, it is a REAL pain to do so.  Quite difficult.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to use my M$ account to log in to Winblows when I built this
>>>> PC.  It was a feature.  Copilot, though, later on, was a piece of
>>>> utter garbage*, and the bloat of 23H2 was already more than I wanted
>>>> to bear.
>>>>
>>>> * I do use Copilot as a Web app in Linux, though, it's cute.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What advantages does the MS account offer?  I have one for email, but
>>> thats a hold-over from the old hotmail days.  In fact, I used Hotmail
>>> when it was HoTMaiL, before MS bought it.
>>
>> 1) Synchronization of content saved to OneDrive across all devices.
>> 2) (Theoretically) unlimited storage for e-mail.
>> 3) Synchronization of your calendar across every device connected
>> through your Microsoft account.
>> 4) Free content creation (fifteen images a day) on Microsoft Designer.
>> 5) Free use of basic Microsoft Office applications on office.com.
>>
>> I'm sure there are more, but those are the ones that come to mind right now.
>>
> 
> These may be useful, but I don't see why one would need to use an
> account to INSTALL Windows.  If one wants to use these features, simply
> enable them in Windows, if not, don't sign up.  IT could even be an
> installation open, asking the user whether they want to sign up for
> these features.  But making it difficult to sign up seems to be the thin
> edge of the "OS as a service" future MS may be trying to push through.

I agree. However, a lot of these features are a response to Apple 
offering them to buyers of their computers. A lot of them have privacy 
implications, but having access to basic versions of Office is a 
necessity when you're looking at your competition and it's bundling its 
own office suite with the purchase of a computer.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-28 15:53 -0400
  Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 16:03 -0400
  Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-03-28 20:37 +0000
    Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 16:47 -0400
      Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-29 00:47 +0000
        Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 21:32 -0400
          Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-29 11:42 +0000
            Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-29 08:06 -0400
              Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-29 23:47 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-30 07:14 -0400
                Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-01 10:00 +0000
            Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 13:15 -0400
    Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 06:14 +0000
      Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-29 15:13 +0000
        Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-29 23:49 +0000
          Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-30 02:31 +0000
            Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-30 06:51 +0000
          Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-30 07:15 -0400
  Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 06:12 +0000
    Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-29 07:54 -0400
      Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-30 07:00 +0000
        Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-30 07:22 -0400
          Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 06:10 +0000
            Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-31 09:17 -0400
              Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-01 05:38 +0000

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