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Re: [OT] Malware alert?

From Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux
Subject Re: [OT] Malware alert?
Date 2018-09-17 11:35 +0000
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Arlen Holder wrote:
> On 15 Sep 2018 15:25:41 GMT, Dan Purgert wrote:
>> [...]
>> FTP is a joke, simply because it is FTP.  But that's been the case for a
>> good long while now.
>
> Agreed. 
> It's even worse on iOS, sadly.
>
> So anyone who posits FTP as a "solution", doesn't understand that.

I've never seen FTP *not* work on iOS (at least insofar as running a
client on said device).  Granted, I *never* run "servers" on my mobile
devices, as I don't trust mobile-device devs to not do something stupid
like "oh, autostart when a new wifi network is detected".

>
>> Personally, I like either using my owncloud instance on the phone (via a
>> browser), as (S)FTP clients on android seem to be a bit touch and go.  I
>> didn't bother testing it, as it has the same limitations as the FTP
>> client I use (i.e. one file at a time), and I don't have any files that
>> surpass 50MB sitting on it. 
>
> If we exclude iOS, FTP works ok (IMHO on Android.
> The worst part of FTP on Windows is that Window is flaky (IMHO) when you
> reconnect frequently using the native Windows File Explorer. 

Commandline on Windows has never been a problem for me.

>  
>> Well, Apple is definitely "you play in our walled garden, or you go
>> away".
>
> I fight that attitude but I do agree that Apple clearly says the real world
> (aka other systems, like Linux), are "not supported".

Good luck getting their corporate attitude to change :)

>
>> I haven't used any of their kit since one of the first couple
>> generations of iPod ... and that was only because they were the only
>> *good* music player at the time, although when SanDisk had their little
>> thing that you could plug a Cruzer Micro into, I loved that player.
>
> I solved all those problems with iPods using the last known good version of
> SharePod freeware, which still works just fine.

Or, I just don't purchase devices that need workarounds to work the way
I would like them to.  TBH, that's my go-to. :)


>>> [...]
>>> I tried SMB, by the say (aka smbclient/samba), but it turns out that if you
>>> don't root Android, SMB is basically brain dead on Android too.
>> 
>> SMB is basically braindead everywhere :)
>
> In the past, I had found the smbclient and samba server, along with CAP,
> useful to tie together Macs, Windows, and SunOS/Solaris machines.
>
> What's nice about SMB is that it's the native way to talk to Windows, and
> it's well honed on Linux. It's Android and iOS that don't work well with
> SMB, where on Android you have to jailbreak (effectively) and on iOS, well,
> iOS is always brain dead unless you jailbreak.

Doesn't make samba braindead though.  And with the advent of WSL,
*apparently* windows is slightly less braindead with other options.  But
I don't have a win-box laying around to test it with (nor do I care to
have one)

>
>> Pretty sure iOS can connect to FTP *servers* still (unless apple fubar'd
>> that)
>
> That's not the problem as the FTP server is running on the mobile device.
> The problem is that Apple doesn't let it access the file system.

Again, I don't run servers on my mobile devices, so the lack of an FTP
server on iOS is itself a moot point.

>  
>> iOS can definitely use http - you just have to have something like an
>> owncloud / nextcloud (etc.) instance, rather than "pure" http via curl
>> or the like.
>
> That's not the problem as the HTTP server is running on the mobile device.
> The problem is that Apple doesn't let it access the file system.

Again, I don't run servers on my mobile devices, so the lack of an HTTP
server on iOS is itself a moot point.

>
>
>> Benefit of youth, I guess.  Kids see "obvious" solutions to things that
>> adults tend to be too locked-in thinking wise to notice. But then again,
>> the whole usecase is a bit edge / corner, so even there some of the
>> "obviousness" is perhaps hindsight on the part of responders.
>
> I don't think most people understand the genius of this solution.
> Nobody, for example, on this planet, can propose a better one (IMHO).

It's hardly "genius".  It is, perhaps, non-obvious to the "learned
computing well before USB was a thing" crowd; but in my experience,
USB-to-USB is pretty ubiquitous. 

An iDevice not needing iTunes is not, but I haven't bought one of those
since I was in high school.

> [...]
> I repeat: Not a single subsequent post after the original post, added any
> value to the topic. It's all in the original post. Nobody knows more than I
> do, unfortunately, and that's sad because i don't know much and I never
> said I did.

Honestly, raw transfer speed is the least of my concerns.  All of my
devices run the "Owncloud Client", having a $HOME/owncloud directory (or
relevant directory on non-Linux devices) that is automatically synced
between all of them. 

Worst case is that the day's pictures (if there are any) get moved over
locally on the phone, to sync overnight as it's charging.  Although, I
also have taken to mild dislike of the phone's client, and tend to just
use the web-ui for that these days.

>
>> It's obvious that iOS and Windows are both bad in their own right, so
>> using both in conjunction is bad^2.
>
> Fact is that mobile devices exist along with desktops existing.
> Fact is that data transfer between mobile devices & desktops is needed.

Fact is, the quoted statement I made is tongue-in-cheek.

> So far, nobody has ever come up with a better method.
> Hence, I leaned nothing from this thread.

In your opinion.  Perhaps other people have taken a (silent) look and
have decided that HTTP (via owncloud) or SFTP (via openssh-server on a
linux box ... or maybe WSL) transfers make for the more universally
applicable approach.

I mean, your approach pretty much relies on physical access to your
desktop.


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            Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-18 16:11 +0000
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                Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 12:48 +0000
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