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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.os.linux |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Date | 2018-09-15 15:25 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <slrnppq93k.6s3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> (permalink) |
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Arlen Holder wrote: > On 15 Sep 2018 12:44:29 GMT, Dan Purgert wrote: > [...] >> Use USB3, and sufficiently fast USB slave devices. Bam, faster ;) > > While I appreciate the suggestion, what I love are real facts. > I've asked twice already (of Carlos, and of Jason). It was just a tongue-in-cheek response. > Nobody has answered yet the critical question of how fast can we > realistically expect a mobile device USB transfer to be? Depends on the device, really. In my case, "zero". Most modern phones (USB2/3 compliant) are supposedly snappy. It has less to do with the CPU and more to do with the USB controller onboard. > [...] > It's too simple! > Yet, few people *know* about it. > > Hence my FYI. Yeh, I stumbled across your stuff on a.o.l, hence the somewhat "we know already!" type response. Although checking the parent postings, perhaps the windows groups don't know in general (but then, I would argue it is on the poster to remove alt.os.linux from the discussion, as it is not [no longer?] relevant to the group). > Still, it would be _great_ if a.o.l people could *improve* on the process > where it's frustating to have to deal with morons like nospam who make all > sorts of bogus claims about how bad the solution is - while never once > coming up with any workable solution on their own. The standard response of "format and upgrade to Linux" still applies :). As for trolls (of which I am not entirely sure nospam is one, or at least is /always/ one), welcome to Usenet. > > Even Jason and Carlos don't seem to understand, I think, why FTP is a joke. > (Maybe the do understand why, but they haven't said that they do.) FTP is a joke, simply because it is FTP. But that's been the case for a good long while now. Personally, I like either using my owncloud instance on the phone (via a browser), as (S)FTP clients on android seem to be a bit touch and go. I didn't bother testing it, as it has the same limitations as the FTP client I use (i.e. one file at a time), and I don't have any files that surpass 50MB sitting on it. > >> Tablets / phones, of course, hide the filesystem behind their USB >> controller, and simply present themselves as "USB Mass Storage" or >> similar. So they have an extra layer of abstraction, similar to running >> samba server on a linux host. > > That "extra layer of abstraction" is no problem on Android, but on iOS, > it's deadly. Well, Apple is definitely "you play in our walled garden, or you go away". I haven't used any of their kit since one of the first couple generations of iPod ... and that was only because they were the only *good* music player at the time, although when SanDisk had their little thing that you could plug a Cruzer Micro into, I loved that player. > > I tried SMB, by the say (aka smbclient/samba), but it turns out that if you > don't root Android, SMB is basically brain dead on Android too. SMB is basically braindead everywhere :) > > So what I tried was: > - FTP (it doesn't work on iOS) Pretty sure iOS can connect to FTP *servers* still (unless apple fubar'd that) > - SMB (it doesn't work on iOS nor Android) > - HTTP (it doesn't work on iOS) iOS can definitely use http - you just have to have something like an owncloud / nextcloud (etc.) instance, rather than "pure" http via curl or the like. > - USB (it doesn't work on iOS) > - Linux USB (it works on both iOS and Android) > > It took *years* to come up to this solution, so when people say it's > "obvious", I have to take exception to that. Benefit of youth, I guess. Kids see "obvious" solutions to things that adults tend to be too locked-in thinking wise to notice. But then again, the whole usecase is a bit edge / corner, so even there some of the "obviousness" is perhaps hindsight on the part of responders. > > Maybe I'm wrong, but is it really *obvious* to all of you that the *only* > way on earth known to man to get full read/write access to the entire > visible iOS filesystem to native Windows - is through Linux? It's obvious that iOS and Windows are both bad in their own right, so using both in conjunction is bad^2. > >> SFTP to the same machine (phone on wifi, machine 1gbit ethernet), 1400 >> files (total 8.2GB) took about 2100 seconds (35 minutes), with an >> average transfer speed of 3.9 MB / second. Unfortunately, because it >> was 1400 * 4 MB files, the transfer started / stopped for every file, >> would've gone about half again as fast had it been a single file (see >> below). > > Megabyte math is always tricky but that seems to add up to about 234 > megabytes per minute, which is a good number to use if that's what it comes > down to. Somewhere around there yes. However, note that the nature of the transfer was "individual files", which added latency as they were sent serially, with a stop/start in between each file. > [...] >> A 3.2 GB transfer to the phone took about 10 minutes. Ran at 6-6.25 >> MB/s over 1x1 [5 Ghz / 40MHz channel] 802.11n (48-50 mbit/sec over a >> medium that can on paper xfer at approx 150). > > Thanks for that second test, which, if my 2GB/minute for USB is > trustworthy, that makes the WiFi transfer only 5 times slower than USB (and > not ten times slower). Oops, I typo'd that -- the PHY rate of 1x1 802.11n at 40 MHz is 150 mbps, with on-paper throughput approaching 75 mbps. Somewhat - note though that wifi transfers can vary wildly, simply due to usage of the spectrum, as it is a shared medium. Had the phone been connected to my wireless network with 802.11ac, given the same settings (40 MHz channel, 1x1), the PHY rate would've been 200 mbps (an increase of 33%), with an expected on-paper throughput of up to 120 mbps (15 MB/sec) -- or a little more than double the throughput. If we were to use our (approximate) 2/3 result (50 mbps is 2/3 of 75), we would've transferred that 3.2 GB file at approximately 10 MB/sec (600 MB/min). Note, that this is of course "napkin math", and again, the real world will make a mess of things. > >> Appears the wifi is the culprit here, as both the phone and the PC >> should be able to sustain higher xfer rates. > > THIS IS A KEY POINT. > In the real world, we never get the advertised transfer rates (IMHO). We do, it's just that wifi PHY ratings combine the transmit and receive throughput in order for bigger numbers on the box. Realistically, a unidirectional transfer will (for pre-802.11ac wifi) top out at around 50% of the number. For example, if you have "802.11n" 300mbps on the box, you'll top out at 150mbps on a clean channel, with one (1) active client. Generally, if you have a handful of clients (such as at here), you'll get anywhere from about 2/3 to 7/8 of that on-paper unidirectional throughput. 802.11ac includes even more black magic, resulting in an on-paper unidirectional speed being closer to 65% of the "on the box" speed. Again, assuming a single active client. > [...] >> Also, the wifi/sftp transfer has the benefits of not >> requiring me to go upstairs to the office to plug things in (or, at the >> moment, buy a new cable). Also works while I'm out of the house. > > I do both WiFi transfer and USB transfer, where I find the WiFi transfer > orders of magnitude *slower* than the USB transfer. The trouble with wifi is that phones are only just now starting to be non-rubbish in terms of tranceivers. So, you have a sweet new phone with ... a 1x1 antenna (using 40 MHz of spectrum, that's only 150 mbps PHY on 802.11n / 200 mbps PHY on 802.11ac), as opposed to 2x2 antennas which'll do 300 / 400. And that's not even considering that 802.11ac can do use 80 or even 160 MHz of spectrum (433 or 866 mbps PHY with a 1x1 radio; or 866/1733 mbps PHY with 2x2), or that high end 802.11ac cards may be 3x3 (600, 1300 mbps / 160 MHz not supported apparently), or with newer "wave2" coming out, 4x4 (800, 1733, or 3466 mbps). NOTE -> I'm only looking at 40/80/160 MHz usage of spectrum, as 802.11ac doesn't support "MCS9" (max data rate) with 20 MHz spectrum usage, so that'd kind of make a mess of things. Now USB 3.x on the other hand, yeah, that's an order of magnitude increase over either of them for a phone (5gbps) -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 14:41 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 14:47 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2018-09-14 16:33 +0100
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 16:14 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-16 22:41 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-18 03:12 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-19 20:29 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 01:34 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-09-20 08:54 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-20 14:17 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-20 19:30 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-18 09:42 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-18 16:11 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-18 12:31 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 04:22 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-18 19:35 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 05:15 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 07:52 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-19 15:32 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-22 20:55 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-09-22 19:26 -0700
[OT] Malware alert? (was: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed)) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-14 15:28 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 16:30 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:47 -0400
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 00:23 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:14 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 21:24 -0400
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:42 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 22:07 -0400
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 03:01 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 23:55 -0400
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 04:31 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-15 12:44 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-15 09:12 -0400
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 04:09 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 04:09 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 21:45 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 14:05 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-15 15:25 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 04:51 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-17 11:35 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-17 11:55 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-18 14:00 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-18 23:31 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 02:43 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 16:31 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2018-09-14 14:06 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 21:01 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 21:17 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 17:31 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 21:43 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 17:51 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2018-09-14 18:02 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2018-09-14 18:01 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:20 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 22:26 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:32 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 22:42 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 22:07 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:20 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 22:38 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:51 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 00:28 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-22 20:46 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-09-15 00:12 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 00:54 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:13 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 21:23 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:56 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 21:23 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:59 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 22:07 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 02:35 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-09-16 01:28 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 03:13 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-15 23:21 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 04:15 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-09-17 06:47 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-17 14:15 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-21 07:48 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2018-09-21 08:34 -0500
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 12:53 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-28 08:50 +1200
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-11-13 13:05 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 12:48 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 14:20 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-16 22:37 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-17 13:28 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-17 13:38 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 04:27 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 01:53 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-19 22:02 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 02:10 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 19:57 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 20:10 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-21 08:15 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 13:11 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 13:30 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 13:59 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-09-27 17:32 +0200
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-21 19:03 +0000
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