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Re: Devuan

From Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Devuan
Date 2015-01-03 05:27 +0000
Organization none-at-all
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On 2015-01-01, Grant <omg@grrr.id.au> wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Jan 2015 16:40:28 +0000 (UTC), William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
> ...
>>You mean no difference you have perceived. 
>>Here are a few
>>-- /tmp is now a tmpfs file, forced. You cannot disable it. Thus you
>>cannot user /tmp as a repostitory for temporary files, since any
>>shutdown or crash will destroy them. 
>
> Since when were files in /tmp meant to survive reboot?  If you have 
> important work in progress, store it in the main filesystem, not the 
> scratch memory, it's volatile.
>
> Grant.

Thank you for asking the question:

Since the mid-1980s on every Unix/Linux system I have used from
then until now, /tmp has been a filesystem on spinning rust--or
maybe SSD in the past few years.  When you say "main filesystem",
which one are you referring to on the Unix machines I have used
that had a separate physical disk and filesystem for at least a
few of /, /usr, /tmp, and /var--not to mention in the old days
/a, /b, /c, and so forth for home directories for the many users
on the system (VAX department development server).

If you want /tmp to be volatile, that's fine; have it your way.
Others don't want it to be volatile.  I seem to recall reading
that it can be done with systemd, but I have not tested it
myself.

At the time my first systemd-based Mageia 2 test VM hung for
several minutes on first boot and then came up with about half
the RAIDs not formed and the system in a very crippled state, I
decided I would not voluntarily use systemd on systems under my
control if there was any other acceptable solution.

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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Devuan Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@gmail.com> - 2014-12-29 17:13 +0000
  Re: Devuan Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-12-29 18:32 +0100
    Re: Devuan Grant <omg@grrr.id.au> - 2014-12-30 05:23 +1100
    Re: Devuan Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-12-29 13:55 -0500
    Re: Devuan Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2014-12-29 19:28 +0000
      Re: Devuan Grant <omg@grrr.id.au> - 2014-12-30 07:25 +1100
        Re: Devuan "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2014-12-29 13:42 -0800
          Re: Devuan Grant <omg@grrr.id.au> - 2014-12-30 09:32 +1100
            Re: Devuan Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2014-12-29 14:57 -0800
              Re: Devuan "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2014-12-30 16:37 -0800
                Re: Devuan Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2014-12-30 18:23 -0800
                Re: Devuan notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-12-31 17:57 +0000
                Re: Devuan Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-12-31 19:07 +0000
                Re: Devuan Grant <omg@grrr.id.au> - 2015-01-01 08:25 +1100
                Re: Devuan Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-01-01 10:56 +0100
                Re: Devuan Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2015-01-01 05:02 -0800
                Re: Devuan John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-01-01 08:49 -0600
                Re: Devuan Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-01-01 16:43 +0100
                Re: Devuan notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2015-01-01 16:12 +0000
                Re: Devuan Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-01-01 18:23 +0100
                Re: Devuan notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2015-01-01 18:11 +0000
                Re: Devuan Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-01-01 22:05 +0100
                Re: Devuan Grant <omg@grrr.id.au> - 2015-01-02 06:09 +1100
                Re: Devuan Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-01-02 20:04 +0000
                Re: Devuan notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2015-01-02 20:14 +0000
                Re: Devuan Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2015-01-02 12:30 -0800
                Re: Devuan notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2015-01-02 21:31 +0000
                Re: Devuan Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-01-03 08:03 +0100
                Re: Devuan Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-01-02 15:35 -0500
                Re: Devuan John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-01-02 14:37 -0600
                Re: Devuan Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-01-01 16:42 +0100
                Re: Devuan Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2014-12-31 16:30 -0500
                Re: Devuan Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@gmail.com> - 2014-12-31 23:51 +0000
                Re: Devuan Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@gmail.com> - 2014-12-31 23:55 +0000
                Re: Devuan Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2014-12-31 16:49 -0800
                Re: Devuan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-01 01:50 +0000
                Re: Devuan Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2014-12-31 22:03 -0500
                Re: Devuan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-01 08:46 +0000
                Re: Devuan Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-01-01 10:15 -0500
                Re: Devuan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-01 16:01 +0000
                Re: Devuan William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-01-01 16:40 +0000
                Re: Devuan Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-01-01 17:00 +0000
                Re: Devuan William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-01-01 17:08 +0000
                Re: Devuan Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-01-01 17:35 +0000
                Re: Devuan Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-01-01 12:09 -0500
                Re: Devuan William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-01-01 17:22 +0000
                Re: Devuan Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-01-01 13:17 -0500
                Re: Devuan Grant <omg@grrr.id.au> - 2015-01-02 06:14 +1100
                Re: Devuan Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2015-01-03 05:27 +0000
                Re: Devuan Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-01-03 08:10 +0100
                Re: Devuan William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-01-03 09:16 +0000
                Re: Devuan Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-01-03 10:37 +0100
                Re: Devuan Grant <omg@grrr.id.au> - 2015-01-02 06:11 +1100
                Re: Devuan Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-01-01 15:23 +0000
                Re: Devuan Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2015-01-03 05:29 +0000
                Re: Devuan Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-01-03 09:14 +0000
                Re: Devuan Stephen Chadfield <stephen@chadfield.com> - 2015-01-05 02:33 +0000
                Re: Devuan "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2015-02-09 16:57 -0500
            Re: Devuan "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-03-08 09:08 -0400
      Re: Devuan Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-12-30 09:13 +0100

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