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Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default

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On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:26:08 +0000 (UTC), Rich wrote:
> Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

>> Random passwords are easier to crack.
>
> No.  "properly random" means the password should look like this:
>
> =~dWx9C9pJq04lGMKh~C
>
> or this
>
> V064pb+e6)Sf/K?20/hf

Yes I understood the word random.

> Which are not "easier to crack" but quite the opposite, significantly
> harder (note - the above two are not in use, and as they are randomly
> generated, never will be).

Frap, I can not find the article showing random password crack time was way
less than a funky word string.

Hardcore crackers are using several video card gpus to crack passwords.

>> Use a funky phrase like
>> my dog eats concrete. 
>> Feel free to sprinkle in numbers and !@#$%^&*()_+= characters.
>
> Not at all safe.  The automatic crackers already know how to generate
> phrases with numbers and those characters sprinkled in, so that is
> actually easier to crack than a "properly random" password.

I completely agree with you with a single password.

Since I can not find the article, we are at the end of this discussion.

Now assuming Fedora 20 has a 3 second delay between each failed
attempt, it is going to take quite awhile to finally hit on any
reasonable strong phrase as the password.

Just don't use any quote or current buzz words.

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fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-09 19:23 -0400
  Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-10-09 23:35 +0000
    Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> - 2014-10-09 20:25 -0400
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-10-10 01:11 +0000
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-10 15:32 +0000
        Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> - 2014-10-10 17:59 -0400
    Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-09 23:13 -0400
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-10 08:50 +0000
        Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-10-10 09:10 +0000
          Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-10 10:16 +0100
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-10 20:05 -0400
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-11 07:47 +0100
          Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-10 09:26 +0000
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-10 11:00 +0100
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-10-10 10:14 +0000
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-10 10:29 +0000
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-10 16:27 -0400
          Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-10 15:41 +0000
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-10 20:03 -0400
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-10 20:28 -0500
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2014-10-11 02:52 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-11 17:03 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-11 14:38 -0400
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2014-10-11 18:05 -0400
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-10-11 23:18 +0100
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-11 23:43 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-11 22:34 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2014-10-11 19:13 -0400
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-12 00:30 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2014-10-11 21:27 -0400
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-12 02:14 +0000
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-11 03:59 +0000
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-10 15:34 +0000
  Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-10 15:31 +0000
  Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Andreas Kohlbach <oct14.5.ankman@spamgourmet.com> - 2014-10-10 16:06 -0400
    Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-10 20:00 -0400
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-11 17:02 +0000
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Andreas Kohlbach <oct14.5.ankman@spamgourmet.com> - 2014-10-11 16:35 -0400
  Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default HakTar <FiteWinTel@gmail.com> - 2014-10-30 07:34 +0000

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