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Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default

From Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default
Date 2014-10-10 09:26 +0000
Organization My Linux Box
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Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:50:32 +0000 (UTC), Rich wrote:
> > However, if your password is properly random, you have little to
> > worry about other than extra entries in your log files.

> Random passwords are easier to crack.

No.  "properly random" means the password should look like this:

=~dWx9C9pJq04lGMKh~C

or this

V064pb+e6)Sf/K?20/hf

Which are not "easier to crack" but quite the opposite, significantly
harder (note - the above two are not in use, and as they are randomly
generated, never will be).

> Use a funky phrase like
> my dog eats concrete. 
> Feel free to sprinkle in numbers and !@#$%^&*()_+= characters.

Not at all safe.  The automatic crackers already know how to generate
phrases with numbers and those characters sprinkled in, so that is
actually easier to crack than a "properly random" password.

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fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-09 19:23 -0400
  Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-10-09 23:35 +0000
    Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> - 2014-10-09 20:25 -0400
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-10-10 01:11 +0000
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-10 15:32 +0000
        Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> - 2014-10-10 17:59 -0400
    Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-09 23:13 -0400
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-10 08:50 +0000
        Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-10-10 09:10 +0000
          Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-10 10:16 +0100
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-10 20:05 -0400
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-11 07:47 +0100
          Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-10 09:26 +0000
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-10 11:00 +0100
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-10-10 10:14 +0000
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-10 10:29 +0000
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-10 16:27 -0400
          Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-10 15:41 +0000
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-10 20:03 -0400
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-10 20:28 -0500
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2014-10-11 02:52 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-11 17:03 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-11 14:38 -0400
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2014-10-11 18:05 -0400
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-10-11 23:18 +0100
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-11 23:43 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-11 22:34 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2014-10-11 19:13 -0400
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-12 00:30 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2014-10-11 21:27 -0400
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-12 02:14 +0000
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-11 03:59 +0000
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-10 15:34 +0000
  Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-10 15:31 +0000
  Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Andreas Kohlbach <oct14.5.ankman@spamgourmet.com> - 2014-10-10 16:06 -0400
    Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-10 20:00 -0400
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-11 17:02 +0000
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Andreas Kohlbach <oct14.5.ankman@spamgourmet.com> - 2014-10-11 16:35 -0400
  Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default HakTar <FiteWinTel@gmail.com> - 2014-10-30 07:34 +0000

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