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Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default

From Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default
Date 2014-10-11 22:34 +0000
Organization My Linux Box
Message-ID <m1cbaa$ftn$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (5 earlier) <m18un5$la4$4@dont-email.me> <m19s3t$148$1@speranza.aioe.org> <slrnm3h6qq.960.spamtrap42@one.localnet> <m1bnsj$eut$2@dont-email.me> <m1btfj$hu9$1@speranza.aioe.org>

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Bill Cunningham <nospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:

> "William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message 
> news:m1bnsj$eut$2@dont-email.me...
> > On 2014-10-11, Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> wrote:
> >> On 2014-10-11, Bill Cunningham <nospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message
> >>> news:m18un5$la4$4@dont-email.me...
> >>>> On 2014-10-10, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:50:32 +0000 (UTC), Rich wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That is most likely a brute force password attempt.  If you shutdown
> >>>>>> ssh, you'll block the attempts, but also prevent yourself from 
> >>>>>> logging
> >>>>>> in via ssh.  So if you log in via ssh, you'll end up shutting 
> >>>>>> yourself
> >>>>>> out as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just tell your firewall what ip addresses are allowed to connect to 
> >>>>> sshd.
> >>>>> Tell sshd that root is not allowed to use a password login.
> >>>>> Tell sshd to listen on a different port.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> However, if your password is properly random, you have little to 
> >>>>>> worry
> >>>>>> about other than extra entries in your log files.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Random passwords are easier to crack. Use a funky phrase like
> >>>>> my dog eats concrete.
> >>>>> Feel free to sprinkle in numbers and !@#$%^&*()_+= characters.
> >>>>
> >>>> He did say "properly random". I am sure by properly he did not mean 4
> >>>> random characters. A long enough password with random characters is
> >>>> certainly better than your example which really is not terribly random.
> >>>
> >>>     Something generated by uuid would I think be pretty good. Or better 
> >>> yet
> >>> if you could direct something from dev/urandom as text; but I don't know 
> >>> if
> >>> you could do that.
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>
> >> This works for me:
> >>
> >>     head -c 16 /dev/random | base64
> >>
> >> That gives about 24 characters, including a couple of symbols.
> >> For website passwords, I prefer to copy-paste the password into
> >> the browser, so take a few over a dozen alphanumeric characters
> >> from the above command.  In theory, /dev/random could block, but
> >> even if it does, I could just spin the trackball mouse for a few
> >> seconds.
> >
> > So why do you not use /dev/urandom? Using /dev/random is silly.

>     I think there would be more entropy in urandom.

The "entropy" is the same for both.  The difference is random blocks
when the entropy drops to a low water mark, and urandom just continues
to provide randomness:

http://www.2uo.de/myths-about-urandom/


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fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-09 19:23 -0400
  Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-10-09 23:35 +0000
    Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> - 2014-10-09 20:25 -0400
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-10-10 01:11 +0000
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-10 15:32 +0000
        Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> - 2014-10-10 17:59 -0400
    Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-09 23:13 -0400
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-10 08:50 +0000
        Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-10-10 09:10 +0000
          Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-10 10:16 +0100
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-10 20:05 -0400
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-11 07:47 +0100
          Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-10 09:26 +0000
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-10 11:00 +0100
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-10-10 10:14 +0000
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-10 10:29 +0000
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-10 16:27 -0400
          Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-10 15:41 +0000
            Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-10 20:03 -0400
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-10 20:28 -0500
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2014-10-11 02:52 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-11 17:03 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-11 14:38 -0400
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2014-10-11 18:05 -0400
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-10-11 23:18 +0100
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-11 23:43 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-11 22:34 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2014-10-11 19:13 -0400
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-12 00:30 +0000
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2014-10-11 21:27 -0400
                Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-12 02:14 +0000
              Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-11 03:59 +0000
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-10 15:34 +0000
  Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-10 15:31 +0000
  Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Andreas Kohlbach <oct14.5.ankman@spamgourmet.com> - 2014-10-10 16:06 -0400
    Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-10-10 20:00 -0400
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-10-11 17:02 +0000
      Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default Andreas Kohlbach <oct14.5.ankman@spamgourmet.com> - 2014-10-11 16:35 -0400
  Re: fedora 20 disabling ssh by default HakTar <FiteWinTel@gmail.com> - 2014-10-30 07:34 +0000

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