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In message <vilain-5053C2.11504419012014@news.individual.net> 
  Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <lbguso$k3s$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>  Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:

>> Every time I upgrade the OS I have to recreate and reinstall local mail, 
>> which is a pain.  Among other things I have to reinstall qpopper, edit 
>> postfix and reload org.postfix.master.plist in LaunchDaemons.  I think 
>> the aliases file has to be checked and reinstalled as well.  There may 
>> be some other things but I am working from memory.
>> 
>> I use local mail pretty much only for daily, weekly and monthly system 
>> mail, a script that checks to see if any man pages need to be updated 
>> and output from the calendar program.
>> 
>> My calendar stuff could be moved to Things and I could probably do 
>> something with my man page checker once I remember what runs it.  The 
>> problem is the system mail.
>> 
>> How do other people get that without running local mail on their computers?

> Your use-case is outside the marketing profile of the typical user who 
> buys and runs a MacOS system.  Most don't bother setting up local mail. 
> Indeed, most ISPs when finding a mail server on their customer networks 
> will either block port 25 if they haven't already, or cancel their 
> account.  The T&C's of Service for consumer accounts specifically 
> prohibit running a server.

> Is it such a big deal to keep the setup information on your mail server 
> in an Disaster Recovery document along with your configurations for 
> Apache, MySQL, php, perl, and any command-line software installed in 
> /usr/local/bin?  When I went from 10.6.8 to 10.8, I was shocked at how 
> much the Migration assistant kept around.  My perl, php, and /usr/local 
> stuff was fine. I had to setup mail, Apache and MySQL, but that was it.

> This all seems pretty obvious to me, as a sysadmin.  Upgrades and what 
> they screw up are part and parcel of living with computer systems.  
> Maintaining documentation on your system so you can recover and recreate 
> it seems like a no brainer.

I still remember, with a certain amount of pain, how much php3 fucked
everything up, and php4 was worse.

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Local Mail Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2014-01-19 11:35 -0500
  Re: Local Mail Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2014-01-19 11:40 -0500
  Re: Local Mail Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-19 11:50 -0800
    Re: Local Mail Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2014-01-19 15:19 -0500
      Re: Local Mail Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-19 15:16 -0800
        Re: Local Mail Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2014-01-20 18:35 -0500
          Re: Local Mail Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2014-01-21 10:42 -0500
            Re: Local Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-21 11:07 -0500
              Re: Local Mail Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2014-01-21 12:02 -0500
            Re: Local Mail Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-22 02:25 -0800
              Re: Local Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-22 10:24 -0500
                Re: Local Mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 16:22 +0000
                Re: Local Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-22 12:22 -0500
                Re: Local Mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 18:33 +0000
                Re: Local Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-22 14:40 -0500
                Re: Local Mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 22:16 +0000
              Re: Local Mail billy@MIX.COM - 2014-01-24 18:18 +0000
          Re: Local Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-21 10:46 -0500
            Re: Local Mail Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2014-01-21 11:56 -0500
              Re: Local Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-21 17:47 -0500
                Re: Local Mail billy@MIX.COM - 2014-01-24 18:12 +0000
                Re: Local Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-24 14:16 -0500
                Re: Local Mail Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-25 09:57 +0000
                Re: Local Mail billy@MIX.COM - 2014-01-27 16:48 +0000
                Re: Local Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-01-27 12:50 -0500
                Re: Local Mail billy@MIX.COM - 2014-01-27 19:31 +0000
                Re: Local Mail Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 18:29 +0000
                Re: Local Mail billy@MIX.COM - 2014-01-27 19:27 +0000
                Re: Local Mail Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-28 00:27 +0000
                Re: Local Mail billy@MIX.COM - 2014-01-28 05:58 +0000
                Re: Local Mail Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-28 16:46 +0000
      Re: Local Mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-19 23:58 +0000
        Re: Local Mail Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2014-01-20 19:07 -0500
    Re: Local Mail Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-19 21:26 +0000

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