Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions

From	David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c++
Subject	Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions
Date	2021-09-13 09:30 +0200
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On 13/09/2021 05:13, James Kuyper wrote:
> On 9/12/21 9:44 AM, Chris Vine wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Sep 2021 09:20:23 -0000 (UTC)
>> Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> wrote:
> ...
>>> Indeed, extern "C" doesn't mean that the code being called using
>>> those functions has actually been compiled as C. It merely changes
>>> the naming of the functions in the object files to be compatible
>>> with how functions are named in C.
>>
>> For functions, it does more than affecting naming.  The language linkage
>> of a function determines two things: the function's name (name mangling)
>> and the function's type (calling convention).
> 
> Furthermore, and not widely appreciated, those two aspects are separable
> by using a typedef for a function's type. The language linkage of the
> typedef determines the calling convention, while the language linkage of
> the function itself determines the name mangling.
> 

That is not something I knew.

It does not affect my own coding, as I know the ABI's are the same for C
and C++ and everything is handled by the same compiler.  But it might be
relevant in odd cases.

One thing that might be relevant in the future is some of the ideas
being considered for changing exceptions into a simpler and more
deterministic system, with far lower overheads, clearer code and better
checking by making them more static and less run-time.  Some of the
papers around this have suggested using additional registers or
processor flags as cheap ways to return exception information to the
caller - and that might mean a change to the C++ ABI compared to the C
ABI on the same platform, even for otherwise simple function parameters.

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Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-11 12:35 +0200
  Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2021-09-11 13:49 +0200
    Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2021-09-11 13:57 +0200
    Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2021-09-11 15:19 +0300
    Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-11 15:32 +0200
    Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions HorseyWorsey@the_stables.com - 2021-09-11 15:54 +0000
  Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2021-09-11 13:55 +0200
    Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-11 15:34 +0200
      Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-11 15:58 +0200
      Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2021-09-11 17:00 +0200
        Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 13:36 -0700
          Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-06 20:42 +0000
            Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 16:12 -0700
              Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-06 23:22 +0000
                Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 17:03 -0700
    Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions HorseyWorsey@the_stables.com - 2021-09-11 15:56 +0000
    Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-09-11 20:10 +0200
      Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-09-12 09:20 +0000
        Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2021-09-12 12:34 +0300
        Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-09-12 12:24 +0200
          Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-09-12 12:29 +0200
        Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2021-09-12 14:44 +0100
          Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-09-12 23:13 -0400
            Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-09-13 09:30 +0200
            Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2021-10-06 13:12 -0700
              Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-10-07 07:09 -0700
                Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2021-12-14 15:21 -0800
                Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2021-12-14 21:17 -0500
                Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2021-12-16 04:21 -0800
                Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-12-14 19:06 -0800
                Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2021-12-16 13:14 +1300
                Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-12-15 18:05 -0800
                Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2021-12-16 04:37 -0800
                Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2021-12-17 09:39 +1300
                Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2021-12-16 19:24 -0800
                Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2021-12-16 04:29 -0800
          Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-09-13 05:34 +0000
            Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2021-09-13 09:55 +0300
  Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2021-09-11 15:12 +0300
  Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> - 2021-09-13 13:21 -0700

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