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Re: Can extern "C" functions throw exceptions

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On 15/12/2021 16:06, james...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 6:21:38 PM UTC-5, Tim Rentsch wrote:
>> "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <james...@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
> ...
>>> The language linkage of a function's type is indeed part of that type. The
>>> language linkage of a function's name is not. The standard's description of
>>> language linkage in 9.11p1 starts with the sentence "All function types,
>>> function names with external linkage, and variable names with external
>>> linkage have a language linkage.", clearly making the point that the
>>> language linkage of a function's type is a distinct thing from the language
>>> linkage of a function's name. The standard could have inextricably linked
>>> them together - but it does not. In fact, 9.11p5 includes an example
>>> demonstrating how they can be separated:
>>>
>>> extern "C" typedef void FUNC();
>>> FUNC f2; // the name f2 has C ++ language linkage and the
>>> // function?s type has C language linkage
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> Thank you for this citation. It doesn't answer all my questions
>> but it certainly does provide an illuminating example.
> 
> If you can figure out words to express your remaining questions, I'd be curious
> to find out what they are.
>   
>> It appears, however, that in practice there is no difference
>> between a type with a C language linkage and a C++ language
>> linkage. Apparently most compilers ignore the distinction
>> because following the rules would break too much code. Here
>> is a link to stackoverflow with more information:
>>
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26647259/
>> is-extern-c-a-part-of-the-type-of-a-function
> 
> The standard is quite clear: "Two function types with different language
> linkages are distinct types even if they are otherwise identical." (9.11p1). I'm
> annoyed, but unfortunately not surprised, to find that this has been ignored.
> I've never had any need to write code where that issue would matter, which
> is why I've never noticed.

I have only used one compiler, Sun CC, that bothered to enforce the 
rule.  At the time, the main problem this caused me was it prevented 
static member functions being passed to pthread_create, I had to use 
extern "C" qualified friend function on Solaris.

-- 
Ian.

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