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Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to

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Hi, all,

I'm sorry for jumping into this so late; just catching up on the email
backlog.

على الإثنين 18 تـمـوز 2016 ‫14:31، كتب Russ Allbery:
> I believe threads stay in -private long past the point of requiring
> privacy, not because people are particularly enamored of the audience or
> posting restrictions there, but because discussion threads almost never
> move.  People always tried to move threads in Usenet as well, and I'd say
> it works about 5% of the time.  People almost always just keep replying in
> whatever forum they saw the original in.
> 
> This isn't a problem specific to Debian.  I see this all the time at work
> too.  The only thing that can sort of help is if *everyone* in the
> discussion is using something like Gmail that doesn't do proper threading
> and instead shows every discussion as a linear discussion, and everyone
> does reply-to-all to the last message of the discussion, at which point
> you can mess with the recipients and sometimes it will stick.  But with
> any diversity of mail clients or proper threading, this goes away.
> 
> And the threads start in -private due, usually, to legitimate privacy
> issues.  I've rarely seen threads *start* in -private for no apparent
> reason.  Rather, thread drift happens (which is pretty much a constant),
> and the thread never moves (which is pretty much a constant).
> 
> I'm extremely sympathetic to the problem you're trying to solve, but I
> think it's a fairly fundamental UI issue in how email works, and I'm
> dubious that creating another list will help much.


I personally think that our BTS has enormous potential simply as a
mailing list manager, and can even potentially solve this problem.
Because threads ("bugs") can be easily reassigned to different mailing
lists ("packages"), people who casually reply to a topic won't
accidentally send it to the original mailing list. Many of the other BTS
features would be useful to have in a mailing list as well, like
clone/merge/archive, so I think all the fundamentals are there.

regards
Afif

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Afif Elghraoui | عفيف الغراوي
http://afif.ghraoui.name

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  Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Jakub Wilk <jwilk@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 16:20 +0200
  Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi> - 2016-07-18 16:20 +0200
    Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-18 16:40 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-18 16:50 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 17:00 +0200
    Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 18:50 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 20:00 +0200
        Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2016-07-18 20:40 +0200
          Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 21:20 +0200
            Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2016-07-19 00:20 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Clint Adams <clint@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 23:40 +0200
        Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2016-07-19 00:20 +0200
          Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Clint Adams <clint@debian.org> - 2016-07-19 02:30 +0200
            Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2016-07-19 03:00 +0200
              Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Michael Wilson <adebianuser@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 16:10 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 23:40 +0200
        Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Afif Elghraoui <afif@debian.org> - 2016-08-27 22:20 +0200
  Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2016-08-24 10:50 +0200

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